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- Elizabeth MacDonald is the stocks editor for Fox Business Network. She is recognized as one of the top prize-winning business journalists in the country, and has received 14 awards, including the top prize in business journalism, the Gerald Loeb Award for Distinguished Business Journalism, and the Newswomen's Club of New York Front Page Award for Excellence in Investigative Journalism.
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movers
The Louie Gohmert (congressmen from TX) plan is brilliant (short version) give the rest of the TARP money back to the people in the form of a tax holliday for two months (no payroll or fed taxes). For two months you keep your entire check and spend the extra money how you see fit (as it is your money) not congress. That would stimulate the economy and give people a true idea of how much money they are giving away each month with out thought to taxes and witholdings.
KT
Great article.
movers
Why has the market to market rule not been changed...I heard a comment on another financial network (won't mention the name but starts with "C" and ends with "C" 4 letters) and the host said maybe I am missing something but it seems like Market to Market changes to solve many of the problems. I hate accounting ....can some one clear up why getting rid of Market to Market would be a bad idea?
aaron
Thanksgiving for traders not investors. This market has killed investors. 'Buy and hold' has gotten investors back to the mid-90s. However, the uncertainty and fear in the market has also created inefficiencies that can be taken advantage of by traders. Bank loans being guaranteed and LIBOR at +300 basis points to the fed funds was a no-brainer. 700 billion for financials yet the XLF was under 10 and the UYG was under 4. Was every bank in the country going to fail? 4 dollars is a call option without an expiration date. The VIX above 80, sell some premium, obviously no one else wants to. The two-year trading at the target rate, 1% currently, really? My point is that there is money to be made. Many of the so-called geniuses of La Salle and Jackson simply played the late 70s inflation, got rich, wrote books, and gave seminars on how they did it. Some guy on TV said recently, “trade the market you have, not the one you want.” I don’t know his name but it makes a lot of sense even though it reminds me of Rumsfeld’s ‘the army you have’ statement. I drove my mom to Wal-Mart the other day, we took her car because she has handicapped plates and I knew we wouldn’t be able to find a spot any where near the building. Liz is right, it’s not the 30s and every bank in the country is not going to fail. There will be a Christmas even if it’s more of a Wal-Mart/Target Christmas than a Nieman Marcus/Saks Fifth Avenue Christmas. So this year I’m thankful for what we have not what I want.
BlackHoleEconomics
Oddly: The nine most terrifying words in the English language pans out to be 9 words.
BlackHoleEconomics
Imagine one corporation that could be simply bought. Imagine if Bear Stearns spent a MERE 6 billion and bought the Wall Street Journal. Imagine what kind of spin they could have promoted. Now, why should I not believe NewsCorp has FBN, and others up to simply snow - obfuscate, confuse. I don't think it's too healthy to have so many news sources through NewsCorp. If they were to be in error ? They impact NewsCorp could have on the markets accidentally if they fail is one grave problem, the impact they could have on the markets with intentional pumping ? My god. I suppose FBN is a control post that CAN be used when needed, otherwise they let you guys lure em in with intellectual eye candy, but ALWAYS strict window shopping. I never see any requests for accountability from FBN. OR WSJ OR MarketWatch for readers who don't know, NewsCorp owns all three of those. Chances are the radio station you hear in your car is NewsCorp. Chances are - soon, the newspaper. I'm not kidding, Kevin Martin at the FCC has already paved the way for a NewsCorp planet. I sometimes wonder if NewsCorp employees are paid more sometimes NOT to say something.
Charlie
Can you say Hyperinflation, Depression or Total Collapse into parts.
BlackHoleEconomics
Great article, title is a washout though.
Mark Sunshine
Great article. Really wonderful summary and analysis. Have a great holiday.
Jon R
Good research, but it was all over the place, and what is the point of this article? It doesn't have one! Why was that "interesting table" included? What are the increases supposed to show -- increase from the Bottom-To-Present Day or increase between listed time periods? The table does not include enough information on it to yield anything useful out of it, just like the article. I want the last few minutes of my life back.
k obrien
Wow. This is why smart people like Peter Schiff and Nassim Taleb (Black Swan) have such distain for economists. Here we have someone calling an end to the falling market as if it might happen tomorrow when we still have two more years of mortgage resets coming, e.g. Indeed, the Economist Has No Clothes. Worse, economists see the world only in terms of paper: paper money, paper financial contracts that have no real value, etc. They tend to completely ignore the real world: permanent oil production decline, climate change, job losses... No, this is far from over. You will see bounces, but only bounces. Like the Great Depression, this will be looong, and recovery will be slow.... maybe even impossible. Check out Karl Denninger, Peter Schiff, Taleb, The Automatic Earth, The Oil Drum, Shadow Government Stats... Reality. Note to writer: The stock market does not = reality. Cheers
BlackHoleEconomics
Hopefully we can see Chris Walken do Paulson sooner than later. heh that left eye... ouch. it's a mountain !
BlackHoleEconomics
From goldmine of insights above: "“Let’s hope we are all wealthy and retired by the time this house of cards falters.”" Gee, I'm just hoping to keep my work as it falters. You know there was a decent point made on MarketWatch (I only read anymore) regarding if, or, when Moody's downgrades the US from triple A. You know all these investments Treasury is making ? or is it taking ? Heh, I wonder if they 'priced in' a top down canopy across the entire US economy ratings demotion from triple A. These sure are exciting times, I'll say that. well regardless, I think MacDonald will be able to make any book deal even AFTER the house of cards falls, and hey, I do wager a journalism award is merited in some of these insights brought forward coupled with iron clad data. The ironic thing ? I bet she just loves her successes in working with so many people. I don't get it. NewsCorp has MarketWatch, SO many media resources, WSJ etc. NONE of the NewsCorp financial offerings seem to zoom in on Liz MacDonald's observations to which more often than not - short of heads turning ANYWAY when she walks bye heh, the insights leave your head spinning with 40,000 foot views offered up - it's data WITH context WITH meaning resulting from and it beats most of the tail chasing I see on WSJ, MW. NewsCorp - get your head on straight ! Unless NewsCorp bought all those financial media outlets to intentionally put out a message. I mean, my god, I realized when Bear Stearns fell ? There was Schwartz out front of his West Palm beach home on Friday going "All is well, and ya know ? it's ALL speculation" Well now, TV, Newspaper and Radio SURE influence speculation, ya think ? I don't get it, what I see from Liz MacDonald, even Cody (I think Charles just KNOWS it's tent take down time for the circus economy, and is maintaining a calm presence) - these messages do NOT fit with majority of NewsCorp offerings. Oh well - least SOMEONE is willing to just seek the truth, even at the expense of upsetting the people upstairs. Augh - time to go.
BlackHoleEconomics
And yet ANOTHER amazing pack of research offered up here in Liz MacDonald's column/blog... Reading above: "Analysts note however, that after the tech bubble burst in 2000, the stock market didn’t hit the lows it should have. That’s because before it could, the housing and credit bubble kicked in from 2002 to 2006." Has me wondering if perhaps those losses have been deferred, postponed when the housing bubble took off etc, AND - whether this time around, we get that pressure towards the lows that should have been reached - from THAT AND current sub prime problems. Although you folks ARE paid, thanks for being the best you can! Happy thanksgiving day people - Maybe Paulson should have - instead of the typical pardoning, gone down to the Turkey farm, grabbed one, and said, THIS is for the consumer. The money is for my good friends. Then again, I don't want to see ANY 'over leveraging' of the Federal Government to correct problems from 'over leveraging' to begin with. I think we get Turkey no matter what tomorrow. Whether it's a message from Paulson, or the store that was bailed out by the bank who was bailed out who loaned the money to the Turkey farm from one of Paulson's picks. Amazing piece of work here and data as well. Whatever you're paid Liz MacDonald, they should pay you more !
Dave Ryan
When the hyper liquidity that has been released into the banking systems finally hits the global economies as intimated by this article ... I just hope the governments involved have taken a big enough equity stake in return for the risk we taxpayers have been subjected to.