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  • September 23, 2008 10:46 AM EDT by Elizabeth MacDonald

    The Bailout Scorecard

    "Common sense teaches that booksellers should not speculate in hops, or bankers in turpentine; that railways should not be promoted by maiden ladies, or canals by beneficed clergymen ... in the name of common sense, let there be common sense."--Walter Bagehot, 19th-century economist

    Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, Securities and Exchange chairman Christopher Cox and James Lockhart, director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, all warned the economy and the markets would face severe distress if the Congress does not pass the Administration's $700 bn plan to bail out the financial industry.

    Fed chair Bernanke went so far as to warn the Senate Banking Committee today that a "recession" with a higher jobless rate and more foreclosures would ensue if elected officials fail to act.

    It's the first of two days of testimony for Paulson and Bernanke as they explain to Congress and the public the necessity of the financial industry rescue that could cost over a trillion dollars.

    The four take to Capitol Hill to defend the biggest pre-emptive fiscal strike that has ever been seen in the history of this country.

    It's a pre-emptive strike that is of a piece with this Administration, a bailout plan to ward off a potentially calamitous unwinding of the financial system due to massive leveraging by financial companies across the country.

    It is a debt load that has the stock markets and the economy lumbering through quicksand.

    The markets moved up and down during the hearing, over fear that Congress would delay the $700 bn government fund to buy toxic assets from banks, and also over worries the plan may not work to turn around the housing and credit crisis.

    Indications of a delay also sent the dollar higher, as the futures markets watched to see whether the plan would pass soon, which would start the government's printing presses, weakening the dolllar.

    Fed chairman Bernanke cut to the chase and moved to paraphrase remarks several paragraphs down in his prepared statement, saying: “Action by the Congress is urgently required to stabilize the situation and avert what otherwise could be very serious consequences for our financial markets and for our economy.”

    The concerns are real, the details complex.

    And chilling.

    Notably, SEC's Cox warns that the $62 tn credit defaults swaps "is regulated by no one," adding, "neither the SEC nor any regulator has authority over the CDS market, even to require minimal disclosure to the market." (Credit default swaps are essentially derivatives that insure other derivatives, like collateralized debt obligations).

    The Heart of the Crisis

    As the housing plunge has yet to find its bottom, the value of mortgage-backed securities has plummeted, triggering $514 bn in writedowns and losses that have left institutions with too little capital to support lending.

    The writedowns arose from a drunken daisy chain of paper kryptonite in the form of bad credit derivatives Wall Street's printing presses pumped out that have vaporized profits earned during the housing bubble.

    Many banks can't raise the money they need to finance lending and so are selling assets, hurting their earnings power and stock prices even more.

    Many shares in companies, including American International Group (AIG), Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE), as well as Washington Mutual (WM), are trading at levels around the cost of a gallon of gasoline or milk.

    The writedowns and losses have been severe. For example, take a look at Bank of America's (BAC) balance sheet, which sports $1.7 tn of assets, but just $84 bn in tangible book value (the difference between "hard" assets and liabilities).

    That's a tiny amount to support that big book of business, a balance sheet now digesting Countrywide Financial and Merrill Lynch (MER).

    Amidst a firestorm of criticism, the US government is stepping in to save a free market that has turned into a free-for-all, with the government looking like a chaotic fire brigade hosing down crises with taxpayer money, raising voter anger hot enough to melt steel that the country is turning into the United States of Bailouts.

    A costly after-the-fact refereeing because Washington, plied with lobbyist dollars, does not have the intestinal fortitude to stop problems before they erupt.

    Wall Street's Reckless Borrowings

    Wall Street borrowed against its assets by a ratio of 30 to one, even 40 to one, a ratio which doesn't take into account the hundreds of billions of dollars of truly noxious subprime debt held in off-balance sheet vehicles, called structured investment vehicles (SIVs).

    The practice led one European official to wonder aloud that he thought off-balance sheet entities went the way of Enron.

    Some $55 bn is slowly bleeding back onto Citigroup's (C) balance sheet. Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE) are believed to hold some $3.3 tn in hedges off their balance sheets, Wall Street analysts say.

    Indeed, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were the US economy's own off-balance sheet vehicle which only helped move the needle on the homeownership rate at some four percentage points over the last decade.

    Paulson is Angry

    "Am I angry that taxpayers are on the hook? Yes, I am angry taxpayers are on the hook, but taxpayers were already on the hook," by a potted financial system that Congress and the US government allowed to fester and sanctioned for years, Secretary of the Treasury Paulson testified, noting it's past time "to get to work" to fix the problems, and that he's talked to central bankers around the world to enact similar plans.

    The Thinking Behind the Plan

    The Paulson plan is to buy up to $700 bn in mortgage-backed securities and then auction them off to investors, which could put a floor under their price and stop the downward spiral in the credit markets.

    But no one knows what these assets are truly worth.

    If the Treasury underpays, banks would take write downs, hurting their balance sheets and ability to lend. If they pay too much to buy these assets from banks, taxpayers end up backing that overpayment to reckless financial companies who leveraged themselves up to the stratosphere.

    Treasury Wants It All

    The current plan would set up a huge fund, potentially costing $700 bn, answerable to the Treasury Secretary.

    Specifically, Paulson's plan says: "Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency...The Secretary is authorized to take such actions as the Secretary deems necessary to carry out the authorities in this act...without regard to any other provision of law regarding public contracts."

    It goes on to say, "Any funds expended for actions authorized by this Act, including the payment of administrative expenses, shall be deemed appropriated at the time of such expenditure."

    What to Watch Out For

    But a growing number of Congressmen want the fund to be run by an independent board, with oversight by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency.

    Watch Congress move fast to dial back the blank-check powers Treasury now wants to arrogate to itself.

    In his opening remarks, Paulson testified: “You can be darn glad you gave us the bazooka,” referring to his own wording several months ago in the rescue of Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE).

    Paulson then moved quickly to dismiss the idea that the Treasury was moving forward without oversight, noting that Treasury always took Congressional oversight into consideration.

    “We need oversight, we need transparency we need protection and we need it to get the job done,” Paulson said, adding the plan would save taxpayers money. “Again I’m frustrated the taxpayer is already on the hook and will suffer the consequences if things don’t work. The best protection is to have this work," adding he believes the plan "will protect taxpayers."

    Economist Edward Yardeni notes the Treasury's plan to auction off these distressed securities might work and save taxpayers money, as an auction would set "the lowest price from banks seeking to dump the worst of their portfolios on the government,” and also because it’s still unclear which investors will step forward to buy this distressed paper.

    Meanwhile, negotiations between the House and Senate and the Treasury are going on in advance so that both houses pass the same bill and it goes to the President right away.

    That's supposed to be this week, but House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) says passage could slip into next week--something the markets would not like at all.

    The Details Being Hashed Out Now

    Along with adding things like more oversight, a growing number of Congressmen want companies who sell assets to the government to let taxpayers subsequently own shares in the company.

    Treasury secretary Paulson doesn't want the government buying equity stakes in participating companies as a condition for selling assets to the fund. This would augur towards, Paulson believes, only severely weakened companies taking part in the fund.

    Also, Senate Democrats want tighter measures to stop foreclosures, curbs on executive compensation and a change to federal law so that judges can modify a bankruptcy filer's primary residence mortgage, which lenders heatedly oppose.

    Under current law, judges may only modify loans on second homes. The lending industry has strongly opposed such a provision.

    An Optimistic Timeline

    According to a proposal from Senator Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), the Treasury's authority to buy damaged mortgage-backed assets would last only one year, and would end by Dec. 31, 2009, versus the Treasury's proposal which asks for two years from the date of enactment.

    Both are overly optimistic.

    The Resolution Trust Corporation of 1989 and the early nineties, set up to liquidate 747 thrifts with assets of more than $350 bn, took about six years to do its work-out. It ended up costing more than $500 bn on an inflation-adjusted basis, more than its initial estimated $50 bn pricetag.

    President Herbert Hoover's Reconstruction Finance Corp. of 1931, in which the government stepped in to support lending by the manufacturing sector, including rail roads, a move which eventually didn't forestall a deepening of the Great Depression, took 21 years to unwind (though it eventually morphed into an effort to support World War II).

    Bernanke Backs the Plan--and Walks the Talk

    Fed chairman Bernanke testified he supported the Treasury's auction plan.

    He also testified about how marked-to-market accounting rules have triggered massive writedowns on mortgage-backed securities, as the rules say companies must pricetag these assets as if they were to sell them today. Since the markets remain frozen for them, the prices are fast bottoming out.

    Instead Bernanke noted “many banks” support "hold-to-maturity accounting," which means banks could sit on these assets and not have to value them under the marked-to-market rules, thus delaying the writedowns--or recording of profit--down the road until they actually sell these assets.

    Curiously, economist Edward Yardeni notes that since mid-March, the Fed has held on its balance sheet an asset identified as Maiden Lane, the portfolio of toxic assets acquired from Bear Stearns when it helped orchestrate the merger between Bear Stearns and JPMorgan Chase (JPM) last March.

    Yardeni notes that “apparently, the Fed isn’t obliged to mark to market [these securities] since the value of this portfolio is still $29 bn, the same as the original acquisition price.”

    Questions Arise

    Of course it can't be ignored that the US government has at least $40 tn in off-balance sheet debt in present value commitments owed on Social Security and Medicare (costing eventually some $99 tn, says the Dallas Federal Reserve).

    Now taxpayers back $5.4 tn in mortgages, too, from Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE)--as well as an up to $80 bn credit line to American International Group (AIG), the $29 bn in securities taken on by the Federal Reserve in the Bear Stearns' rescue, and a potentially $700 bn bailout of distressed mortgage-backed securities.

    But perhaps (a thin reed of hope) the $700 bn may be a ceiling amount and the bailout may not cost that much, as already some $514 bn in losses and writedowns have been taken by banks and investment firms around the world. So, the debate is whether there are still $700 bn in mortgage-backed securities still to be bought.

    Economist Edward Yardeni and his team say some $600 bn in toxic assets (called "level 3" assets under accounting rules) still sit on Wall Street. It remains to be seen whether all of that sum gets dumped on the government (meaning, taxpayers).

    However, if some financiers have their way, the government would also swallow all sorts of credit-backed securities, of all stripes, namely credit card, student loan, even auto loan derivatives, costing taxpayers even more.

    That would be a bad move--fix the housing crisis first and the rest will follow.

    Secretary Paulson, when asked about this issue, testified the "vast bulk of our efforts should be aimed at mortgage securities" but that the Treasury asked for "broad authorities" to deal "with a variety of securities as needed," as the plan might aim at helping a broader range of assets in order to "free up the financial system."

    Other Questions Remain

    Will all 8,400 banks and thrifts have access to the new fund, or just the sickest ones, who decides which banks and thrifts are the most ailing and how does the government define that standard?

    Also, foreign banks with US backed securities evidently now have access to the portfolio, under the Treasury plan. But can hedge funds participate? Nothing on that just yet, though some Congressmen say no.

    And will the government publicize the names of companies unloading bad debt securities on the $700 bn fund? The Reconstruction Finance Corp. did, publicizing names of banks borrowing government money, triggering fears of a run on banks around the country.

    The Federal Reserve Opens the Barn Doors

    Meanwhile, Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke may have to answer questions to the fact that the Federal Reserve threw open the doors to investment in the US banking industry by letting private equity firms, with $400 bn in capital, sovereign wealth funds, with an estimated $2 tn to $3 tn in assets, and corporate investors buy stakes in banks.

    All in the hope that this would direct much-needed capital to the US banking sector.

    The Federal Reserve plans to raise the maximum stake a minority investor could take in a bank holding company from 25% to 33% in some instances and lift the ban on board representation for minority investors.

    Already, the private-equity firm TPG (formerly Texas Pacific Group) led a $7 bn investment in WaMu earlier this year. National City has benefited from private equity capital too.

    Buyout firms such as Warburg Pincus and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. have lobbied federal banking officials to loosen their restrictions, the Wall Street Journal reports.

    Private-equity firms are hoping to repeat the success some enjoyed after the savings-and-loan debacle in the late 1980s and early 1990s, when they bought S&Ls on the cheap and reaped big profits, the Journal reports.

    This raises conflict of interest issues. Would a Henry Kravis push a commercial bank to lend money to a risky, private client for a quick buck, and if that loan fails, would taxpayers be on the hook? (answer: yes).

    And will Congress let sovereign wealth funds buy controlling stakes in US banks?

    Will Congress, say, let the Russian sovereign wealth fund, the Kuwaiti Investment Authority, the SWF owned by Abu Dhabi, or China's SWF buy controlling stakes in US banks, after the US Congress has stymied foreign investments in US companies (earlier this year thwarting China's attempt to buy a stake in 3Com, for example)?

    What's Next for Wall Street Investment Banks

    Meanwhile, storied investment firms Goldman Sachs (GS) and Morgan Stanley (MS) have become boring old commercial banks in a day. They gave up on attempts to remain as the last two investment banks standing to become "bank holding" companies. Both already own industrial loan companies based in Salt Lake City, Utah that can easily be turned into banks, sources say.

    The move lets them gain access to bank deposits as a source of funds and also gain permanent access to Federal Reserve liquidity support via the discount window, access now on a temporary basis.

    The Fed's move comes as the discount window is under duress, with record borrowings, partly due to the Federal Reserve expanding the list of accepted collateral at the window.

    Also, the short-term collateralized loans in the repo market are also under strain due to the run on money funds, as these funds help fuel and provide liquidity to the repo market.

    In return for that access, the two must meet new, tougher capital ratio requirements, the amount of funds they must have on hand to do borrowings. To meet these tighter requirements, they'll either have to cut their leverage ratios in half or raise capital, or some combination of both. They are now levered around 20 to 1 to 30 to 1.

    Their business activities are more speculative than deposit-taking banks, so their capital ratios should be commensurate with their more risky ways of earning money.

    The two may potentially merge with smaller, more solid commercial banks, or continue to get funding from outfits like Mitsubishi UFJ Financial, which bought a 20% stake in Morgan Stanley for as much as $8.5 bn.

    The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency would oversee the commercial banking entities for Morgan Stanley and Goldman, while the Fed will be the key oversight agency for the two firms' overall capital levels and soundness. The central bank already oversees other major bank holding companies, such as the parents of Citibank and Bank of America.

    Here Comes Inflation

    The U.S. government will need to print money to pay for its new plan, which is why Treasurys are trading at record levels. The plan could add up to $700 bn to the money supply, blowing out the M3 portion of the overall money supply by nearly 10%. But $700 bn may not be spent.

    Whatever the sum, all of this will cause inflation. Which is why gold prices have soared higher by $40 an ounce and oil $16 a barrel-meaning more money for the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries [OPEC] and other oil producers, already seeing record receipts.

    A Better Way?

    Brian Wesbury, chief economist, First Trust offers this plan this morning-this is straight from his research report:

    All of this can be avoided if a system were put into place that allowed private companies to hold these distressed assets. Rather than a centralized holding place, why not use a decentralized one?

    Why not allow financial firms with structured (Tier 3), (EMAC: the most insolvent ones) assets issued between December 2003 and August 2007 to suspend mark-to-market accounting for those assets, and receive government insurance as a backstop?

    This would be a temporary solution, not requiring any ultimate change in Sarbanes Oxley or mark-to-market accounting rules, and the government could even make money by selling insurance with less risk to the taxpayer than buying them outright.

    In essence a firm could sequester, or firewall off these specific assets from the rest of its balance sheet, and either finance this itself, or bring in outside financing. The firm would promise to hold the securities to maturity, or until government insurance was no longer needed when it liquidated the assets.

    All of these deals could be settled in the private sector, in multiple locations with the government looking over the shoulder of each deal.

    If the rules had been relaxed a little bit for these specific assets, Merrill Lynch could have created its own private equity investment fund inside its corporate structure instead of selling at a huge loss to Lone Star, which created its own holding vehicle.

    This plan would leave mark-to-market accounting regulations intact. It would be a temporary change in the rules. Its most important attribute is that it leaves taxpayer powder dry for another day. It also allows the private sector to price assets in an environment that is not contrived and will help avoid the loss of, or government takeover of, more private firms.

    Even if the Treasury initiates an RTC-type vehicle, the slight changes in the accounting rules for these specific assets should still be made. If a firm does not want to accept the government bid for its distressed assets it would have an alternative.

    It would also create a level playing field because the Treasury does not have to mark-to-market. A competitive marketplace for these securities would insure the current holders that they would get a price that is not based on a fire sale.

    This plan stops the mark-to-market meltdown without undoing the good that mark-to-market accounting has done, protects the taxpayer, stops the losses at financial firms at a crucial time, and therefore helps end the shorting of stock and bonds that has kept the financial system on the rocks without making it illegal.

    Best of all it keeps the government from a massive and draconian step toward financial socialism.

Hillbilly #3

Well, It seems while our alleged president was enforcing regulation chasing nameless faces in unknowable places in the desert ? He was letting those nameless faceless CDO's just fly right out of the country to be laundered. Gee Free Markets - HA yeah - that's like anarchy right ? Last I checked 'the left' in latin means Sinister - and throughout history - we've had this model of the 'left' being sinister, chaotic, anarchy - and the right being orderly - just etc. And here ? the 'Conservatives' want to let crime run free in the streets ! Or wait, regulation is ok if it's protecting someone taking your 40 inch TV BUT it's not ok if it's preventing you from passing off in 40 billion in CDO's. Seems this 'god' that 'loves' the conservatives (the classic answer to wealth - why ? god loves me, that's why !), doesn't like banking ! ?

September 26, 2008 at 9:36 am

Hillbilly #3

From Jeff above: You don`t have to have a Princeton education to know someone making $50,000 a year can not afford a $400,000 home. Gee, my 50 to 1 ratio for fannie and Freddie allows you to own a 2.5 million home using their math on 50k a year. I see Liz MacDonald has a 100 to 1 ratio for Fannie and Freddie on debt to assets. I wasn't aware the US is up to about 60 trillion in debt. That's a lotta interest, maybe it's time for the new world order ! lol

September 26, 2008 at 9:18 am

Hillbilly #3

So, How's Uraguay these days ? citi is next. Welcome to God's plan for the people of this nation. Anyone seen Neil Bush ? People want free markets, let them have free markets, and let's abandon law too ! oh wait - we already have. Yeah, Seems anywhere religious fundamentalists show up, EITHER side, here we have great back room violations of the kids. I often question why some people need to be saved so bad. From what ? Themselves ? I just finished watching a Palin video on youtube, some preacher flipping out demanding God MAKE Palin win the governor election. You know ? The system itself will break before these nutcases realize they can't harness it anymore to exploit it. Good going phony rhetorical conservatives, you're not Bob Dole, you're phony.

September 26, 2008 at 9:16 am

Connie

You can save Wall Street or you can save the dollar. But you can't save both. We are facing the financial collapse of the United States of America if this bailout is passed. For those who don't understand this, hyperinflation of the money supply by the Federal Reserve will devalue the dollar. It doesn't have far to go before it collapses completely. Welcome to 1989 Soviet Union collapse. Yes, we will face a severe recession if we don't pass it, but like Ron Paul said about the 1921 Recession, the market then was allowed to correct itself and it only lasted about a year. The Great Depression was caused by prop-ups just as what is happening today but they weren't in a neverending war. The dollar was partially still backed by something. And they didn't have a massive deficit as we do now. I have savings in AIG and am willing to give it all up to save my daughter's future. I am not interested in saving Wall Street. I am interested in saving the Constitution and the United States of America. Let not this bloodless coup continue! Let it not be said our forefathers died in vain!

September 26, 2008 at 1:12 am

jeff saturday

Don`t forget Sen. Dodd saved $80,000 on a mortgage from Country Wide because he was in the "Friends of Angelo" crowd , and now I hear he is ready to announce they have reached an agreement on the seven hundred billion dollar bailout bill , and he is talking about oversight ????

September 25, 2008 at 12:59 pm

jeff saturday

In Port Saint Lucie Fl. homes that were bought for $400,000 in 2005 are now for sale for $120,000 what is the government going to pay for these defaulted on mortgages , and who is going to pay for the taxes and maintenance , these seem like valid questions , and where were these congressman and senators while their constituents were buying these homes they coudn`t afford . You don`t have to have a Princeton education to know someone making $50,000 a year can not afford a $400,000 home.

September 25, 2008 at 12:25 pm

Dave Meleshko

I cannot believe everyone is missing the point here. 1/ The banking system is seizing up as no one is lending 2/ The federal government wants to unstick the system 3/ Taxpayers/ citizens do not want to be on the hook for it Here is a simple solution Have the $700 Billion available and set up a new bank and instead of buying up nebulous paper of unknown value from the folks that created the mess, write up good loans and mortgages to qualified individuals or companies. Make sure (like the solvent , safe banks) that due dilly is done with respect to abaility to pay, asset quality etc. This would allow legitimate lending to go on. In the meantime, the mess could clean itself up as Bankruptcies etc, allow assets to be sold and thereby a market created for those assets. It may result in legitimate buyers getting financing from the feds bank Finally, the feds can sell their quality paper at a profit to private institutions and wind itslef down. All the while that this is occurring, the government can take an appriopriate amount of time to set up new rules and regs that work in the 21st century and are enforceable.

September 25, 2008 at 12:20 pm

Mark

Anger, Rage, Fear, jealously are dangerous combinations in today's marketplace. I do not believe that many have fully thought through the bailout (which should not be named such) and what it means. In many respects, we have all benefited or contributed to these issues. The government and joe public were screaming about their "rights" for home ownership. Originators, lenders, fannie and freddie, gov't, etc allowed for the creation of exotic loan structures. We went from 64% home ownership to 69% homeownership. This 5% change boosted the economy as houses were being built, supply lines were flowing. Everyone made out. When interest rates were at or near historical lows, the "exotics" made it easy for people to stretch into their homes. Unfortunately, these people never should have been allowed to get these loans. The economy would not have grown as fast but it would have been stable. Now the good timely paying mortgagees who stretched but did not overstretch will have to deal with this injustice. Life isn't fair but are we going to let a 5% variance plunge us into a great depression. Credit is tightening, HELOCs are being pulled when homeowners are not finished with their projects. Most companies pay their people using lines of credit as their customers often do not pay for 60-120 days after invoicing. If the LOCs are tightened or removed, can you live without 3-4 months of salary. I am sick of people would do not feel this will affect them. It will. The rich, middle-class, and poor are so interconnected domestically and internationally that something has to be done. My hope is that the investment (not bailout)will result in banks having the liquidity to make loans, private investors will see a real way to value a CDO/CMO thus making them desirable at their current value thus furthering liquidity, oversight and regulation will improve (to the correct level), albeit unfair mortgage rates/terms will be renegotiated so the foreclosures slow or stop, houses become a buy now that the market has regained its footing. In the end, the citizens receive payouts on the CMO/CDOs or sell them as the market regains its footing. This option is our only current option or we all go down together. Once we fix this, the nation should then focus on the creating of jobs in the energy markets.

September 25, 2008 at 10:25 am

Hillbilly #3

At some point ? China will say: "Look, No Treasury auction any more. You start selling national forest and assets" "We take Yellowstone ? how you say it ? for 500 Billion.

September 25, 2008 at 10:02 am

Hillbilly #3

Somewhere in a 600 level course at Johns Hopkins or SOMEWHERE - Terrorism is being examined as the shadow of nationalism. And here ? In a global arena ? it does not exist anymore. Yet ? What did the US expend itself on the last 7 years ? fear - isolationism - my god - if the US were to walk into a psychiatrists office ? The Eli Lilly script note pad would be slapped on that desk SO fast to put America on Prozac for this bipolar madness. I've ALWAYS agreed with Greenspan that a health human being can't function without hope. You start running media resources constantly day in - day out - promoting fear the terrorists ? Hey If THAT is the nation state YOU live in, and THAT is how YOU spent your last 7 years (and it's not 'end days' after all) ? Hey, the US can't function in this state of perpetuated fear and protectionism. I find it puzzling. Those that dealt the sub primes - oh - very well used global channels to distribute. Yet - oh no ! America ! Protect ! what ? protect what ? we've been FLEECED Hasn't anyone stopped to smell the China isn't buying at auction bush ? It REALLY doesn't help that Paulson came from well wherever he did come from.

September 25, 2008 at 10:01 am

Hillbilly #3

This article left out the nation state scorecard. I read today: "Superpower no more? American dominance likely to erode as global financial system becomes "more multi-polar," German minister says." Gee you know ? Was THIS the REAL homeland protection strategy ? Devalue the nation state so that even the terrorists won't find the US a class A nation state to target ? thereby passing it up for other more valuable assets ? I guess I'm suggesting, what's left to target ? or take ? or threaten ? We failed to 'get' the move to globalism - US citizens were continually fed useless dichotomous protectionism lines from both sides. Now that the global economy has been tested for thorough laundering of ALL our current sub prime products we're discovering who was holding the LAST ownership on ? Gee, whole lotta people made a whole lotta money and I figure the nation state was squandered in the process. I look at it like this. Once you realize sea level rise expectations ? You can kiss a lot of PRIME coastal property good bye. By analogy ? Once you see the threat to the US dollar ? Through this latest laundering technique using the US Treasury ? you can kiss a prime nation state goodbye. It's not a disaster, it's just unfortunate America wakes up a little to late to realize the graduation ceremony has already begun to globalism. that's a fact jack.

September 25, 2008 at 9:49 am

CM

Maria - very well spoken, to that I would add: RE: Wesbury suggestion. While I am not fully in support of this bailout as I understand it to be at present, I have to say from a practical standpoint, changing accounting practices is a worse option. Wesbury makes it sound simple, however, he is talking about changing an accounting practice that could cost the financial institutions millions to adjust the technology and practices in place today. Why would you add more financial burden to already failing institutions. In this world nothing comes for free and you have to work at it to be successful. Congress should really take a step back over the last decade or so and see that obviously, they failed miserably at trying to build a politically correct US. If laws hadn't changed requiring institutions to lend more and if the consumer had taken on responsibility of knowing full well they could not afford the debt they were incurring, the crisis would not be as dior. Would it still need revamping, absolutely, but there would be time to put a well thought out plan in place. I pay my bills, have A1 credit, pay my taxes (on an overinflated property) and contribute to my retirement. Right now it seems as though I should walk away from my house, max out my credit buying everything under the sun and forget about paying any of it back. I can simply buy the house back at a foreclosure sale and pay half the price I'm paying for it now. Hmmm. sounds fair to me. Actually, I think the government should allow every existing homeowner to write down 50% of their mortgage and allow everyone to refinance at let's say 2%. To all who have already walked away, they can buy again another day at standard interest rates. To me, that would be fair for the entire US economy. Talk about putting money back in --- people would be able to pay cash ! novel idea. I'm getting off my soapbox now. Call it nerves or whatever, but I am so angry right now at all who have contributed to this crisis and the fact that they continue to help those that shouldn't be getting helped in the first place because they don't bother to try to help themselves. They just want to reap the benefits. Don't we all?

September 25, 2008 at 9:31 am

steveo

Clinton's made $100Million In past 6 years so to did the Former Director of Freddy Max Also a Former Employer of Bill Clinton Made $90Million in past 6 years

September 25, 2008 at 7:28 am

Erwin Williamson

What if this Mortgage Meltdown didn't just happen? What if the entire mess was cunningly engineered by parties wielding vast sums of wealth who aren't necessarily friendly to the free world? Shouldn't this albeit far-out scenario at least be considered, and hopefully debunked by Fox news? I'm just asking the question.

September 25, 2008 at 12:41 am

David Harrell

Four main considerations: 1. Wall Street is literally a 100% gambling den. It has no other reason to exist. 2. Making money from money is pure inflation. 3. Bad mortgage paper is only a smaller portion of the entire "exotic instuments" portfolio that money markets now carry. Stay tuned for yet more, and more, and more, and more, and more.............. 4. Avarice recognizes no boundary, no affiliation, nor argument. It is virilent, incurable, and pandemic; something that even money cannot buy. The poor strive, the sated deny, and there are no rich.

September 24, 2008 at 11:39 pm

Brutus

Chickens coming home to roost, no accountability on the part of the mortgage deadbeats, no accountability by the ignorant bankers, no accountability on the part of government - no responsibility for actions, just hide the consequences in a collective committee and defer yet another failure by the "experts" Most have worked hard and long to pay their mortgages now those that didn't get a free ride, most have worked have worked long and hard to pay their taxes and now the money will go to those in business and government that failed - confidence in what? We have bankrupted the country- taxes to deadbeats, taxes to illegals, taxes to crooked politicians, taxes to corrupt executives - maybe its time to just "close the window"

September 24, 2008 at 10:11 pm

Brutus

Chickens coming home to roost, no accountability on the part of the mortgage deadbeat, no accountability by the ignorant bankers, no accountability on the part of government - no responsibility for actions, just hide the consequences in a collective committee and defer yet another failure by the "experts" - no confidence in the "elite" class Most have worked hard and long to pay their mortgages now those that didn't get a free ride, most have worked have worked long and hard to pay their taxes and now the money will go to those in business and government that failed - confidence in what? We have bankrupted the country- taxes to deadbeats, taxes to illegals, taxes to crooked politicians, taxes to corrupt executives - maybe its time to just to "close the window"

September 24, 2008 at 10:08 pm

Lance Smith

Hell, no. No bailout. No corporate bailout. Fiscal conservative.

September 24, 2008 at 9:52 pm

Ron Smothermon

Someone needs to be talking to the top economist in the country. On PBS two top economists, I believe one from Princeton and the other from another top University explained that we either needed to let the markets take care of the problem or if it is determined the markets are frozen, the Government can loan the money at interest. When a business has to borrow money, they have to prepare a loan package and show that they have the assets to support the loan and the ability to repay the loan. A business usually has to show a plan to pay back the loan, and a back up plan in case the primary plan fails. It is also normal for the lending institution to place restrictions on the borrower, restricting dividends, bonuses, salary increases, other borrowing, etc. Personal guarantees are also not uncommon. Loaning the money rather than buying assets of undeterminable value leaves the responsibility of collecting the questionable paper with the institution and not the government. It would be relatively simple to set up a board to approve loan requests on a case by case basis. Get some of the old line retired bankers who would never have done business like this generation. Also, I suspect that there may be a significant number of purely fraudulent loans on the books, supported by fraudulent documentation. Ron Smothermon Santa Fe, NM

September 24, 2008 at 6:05 pm

maria

What I am not hearing is that it was the US Congress that allowed this to happen! Did the Democrats not ask for more flexibility in loaning to those individuals who may not have been approved in earlier times? Can we not go back to Jimmy Carter, among others, and and see this? When will this country wake up and realize that we "Wall Street" is in fact "Main Street". With the fall of Wall Street comes the fall of our economy. People need to live within their financial abilities, and that is the lesson here. Everyone is to blame, but the United States Congress needs to, from this point forward, pass legislation that is right for the Country, not what is right for their getting the votes!

September 24, 2008 at 3:38 pm

Hillbilly #4

Hmm 50 billion to the kids or 700 to Paulson and his bald cronies ! People walked with HUGE profits on this. People rode Lehman down, people made fortunes shorting here. And now - the regulatory measures too little too late are called 'Everyone else cleaning up the mess from the adolescents'

September 24, 2008 at 3:15 pm

Hillbilly #4

I do say John Stewart asked it well: "If it's socialism to give health care to kids who really need it ? " "Then why isn't this socialism ? "

September 24, 2008 at 3:13 pm

Keene

I have my tent ready and know how to use it. This mess has already cost me plenty. Let's get it over with and find the bottom. I am worn out subsidizing politicians retirement plans and corporate golden parachutes. NO BAIL OUT!!!!

September 24, 2008 at 3:06 pm

Max VanNatter

I think there is a hidden agenda here with the world money supply(credit) This seems to me to be the perfect storm for one world currency. First set up a situation where all banks are subject to failure, then issure credits based on current value of economies and issue new universal world money. They could abolish all world debt and start new. It sounds good except only 8 to 10 countries would be allowed to control the money supply thus own the world. Communications, Finance, Energy, Agra, and so on would be controlled by these countries thus the entire globe would be subject to there rules. Sounds strange well I have lived long enough already to see the TV, Internet, Space travel, cell phones, and the USA become a world joke. Max

September 24, 2008 at 2:44 pm

chuck

I'm listening to the local AM talk show Live from the KLONDYKE and Democratic Realtor Ricky Caldwell can't handle the fact that his Democratic party is up to its nose with Freddie and Frannie Mae. They're talk about what this bailout is. What makes it funny I don't think they don't have a clue what is. They're chatting away on the bad mortgages.

September 24, 2008 at 9:41 am

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