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- Elizabeth MacDonald is the stocks editor for Fox Business Network. She is recognized as one of the top prize-winning business journalists in the country, and has received 14 awards, including the top prize in business journalism, the Gerald Loeb Award for Distinguished Business Journalism, and the Newswomen's Club of New York Front Page Award for Excellence in Investigative Journalism.
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Doug McPhee
Elizabeth, Mr. Westbury posits a very interesting alternative approach to the problem....has anyone in Washington DC looked at it? It actually looks like it makes sense, it the most cost effective, does not require Congressional approval.....can someone make a decision?
RJG
Hey the market is up and the dollar is up. Still waiting for the end of the world. This while Europe is busy nationlaizing its banks.
Rhonda Mullins
NO! to the Bailout. We know they are only trying to save there lined pockets and they are all in thick. We will vote you out if you do not kill this bailout!
BobD
I see two problems that must be fixed in the bailout legislation: 1. The initial reason for the bailout is lending money to deadbeats under pressure from the lefty politicians. This has not changed so the problem will start up again once credit loosens. 2. The taxpayer is being asked to assume corporate risk. This risk is normal and MUST stay with the institutions who make the investments. Bankruptcy is normal and a proper tool to rid the corporate world of stupid companies - don't interfere with a normal process. Until these issues are formally dealt with the taxpayer will not be onboard - we're just not that stupid - DAH!
Sandy
Get over it ... NO BAILOUT!!! Let the Markets heal themselves. Let mortgages go into forclosure. Let businesses fail; if they have to borrow to meet their payrolls, they should not be in business. Far, far too much is being handled with credit. No sympathy for investor portfolios. Their managers got themselves into this mess; let them get themselves out. If mainstreet must get themselves out of debt, we'd have to take the hit ... so should the idiots who made bad investments.
John C
One way would be to stop the selling of mortgages as-in-finitum, when you make a loan you are stuck with it and you will be more careful about whom the loan is made to and what is their ability to repay it. Most of the mortgage companies could care less about the loan repayment as long as they get their commission.
Jethro
Wait, Who are we kidding. Nature is free reign to violence. Free markets ? Give me a break. The universe- AND global derivatives btw - is a ZERO SUM GAME folks. Don't short humanity Jonathon, it is NOT in everyones best interests. Wow - What happened ? Did Fox News just BUY ? CNN news software ? and setup shop overnight with a few Regents ? Oh, and the icing on the cake Palin lets us know God has this ALL under control, and end days are near ! Yeah GOP - you phony conservatives full of useless never ending rhetoric (notice the similarity in style taken here in these posts ? )- Your message is just GREAT for the kids - "Jesus is coming, you can find refuge in Alaska, and don't worry, it's ALL in god's hands ?" And THAT is the plan ? Jesus + Free Markets ? Wow Wait, I thought a monarchical rule of the universe wouldn't allow for free markets ? What kind of unfiltered water are you people drinking over there at FBN ? What's next ? some rhetoric mongering right wing nut saying on one hand the Universe is monarchial rule ? but on the other we should idealize democratic rule ? By the end of the day, anyone with an IQ over 154 (my estimate), can see you have to be schizoid to be a Christian American supporting both monarchy AND democracy. It is fitting though, the current jeebushwhacker crowd- the Goodling Regent crowd that undermined and refitted the Dept. of Justice - drapes and all ! Under God ? (The drapes were to keep the non-believing citizens out of view from the window of the new Department of Justice for Christ) - really believes monarchy is the foundation for their democracy. Count me out, as Sgt. Hulka says as he jumps the truck in Stripes "I'm getting too old for this sshshhheeeee"
Jethro
Dear 'Jonathon' of Fox Business News - oh wait, that would be a 'consultant' Fox makes SURE it has consultants - legal liability ya know ! (notice, no Fox News employees, all Fox News Contributors- pretty slimy eh ? These people hide like the slime they are, only after they've shoved their jesus loving tripp tripe in your facing saying - EAT IT) Dear Jonathon... Here is your first class ticket to the island of Lord of the Flies please enjoy no regulation and you hold on to those eye glasses pal... okay ? And if anyone on the island adopts a nick name Piggy for you ? Capitalist Piggy ? Perhaps ? you hold onto those eye glasses with all you got... Enjoy your stay Jonathon, the island is 100% free markets. BTW jonathon, do you also support 100 % freedom ? no law ? 100 % Anarchy ? So left of you Jonathon.. Oh wait, you're off thinking about actually honestly asking yourself some serious question on integrity eh ? I don't know Jonathon, I'm PRETTY sure I'd beat you in chess. I don't think you can think that far ahead pal.
Joe Kassuba
The march to socialism by our country is very bad in my opinion. I grew up next to a railroad yard in Oxford Michigan and learned the difference between bums and hobo's. Hobo's were folks that were living with what they earned and had and were willing to work for food, Bums were not willing to live with what they had and were not willing to work for food-they preferred to steal or rely on others. We have become a nation of bums! We have made the same mistakes made by numerous societies by not remembering what history teaches. Increasing the size of government, not holding those that make blunders responsible, hiding and ignoring the truth , spending more than is in the bank and inflating value by creating false demand (hedge funds and not requiring hard asset collateral for loans and etc). Relying on others to do our work and provide for us and not being responsible for our mistakes. So the pill may not be easy to take but it is the best in the end. No bail out!! Make do with what we have! Use it up. Move from the bum camp to the hobo camp and get to work!!! I heard on TV Saturday one of the congressmen who is in the group that was responsible for writing the proposed bail out legislation say "I am not in the business of making money". This is the bum attitude and he needs to be fired because, that attitude does not protect the tax payer. We the citizens of the United States are responsible for what the government is today and we have let others do our job and been in the bum camp too long! I am not talking about politics but our attitude of spend spend spend and not earn earn earn. I am absolutely against this legislation and will not vote for any candidate that supports it.
Dave C. from Texas
Congress got us into this mess several years ago when lending regs were "relaxed" so that more and more of the general public could afford housing. The liberals led the way and the conservatives didn't fight hard enough to strike down the legislation that allowed these toxic loans. Congress needs to look into the mirror then dig into their own pockets for this bailout. This is a prime reason for term limits in congress. It's time for a complete turnover on Capital Hill. We should hold our politicians accountable. Then you have the greedy executives that took advantage of the system knowing that one day we would be in this debacle. They knew that interest rates were at 40 year lows when they made ARM loans. They knew that those that were borrowing would eventually default on the loans due to income limitations, little down payments, borrower's history of bad credit, marginal qualifications, etc. However, they still made the loans. The executives running these companies should also be held accountable. Then, there's the stupid consumer. When one is looking to finance a home and the mortgage company provides a "good faith estimate" of the monthly cost (including taxes and insurance), it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know whether or not the home fits the borrower's budget. It's time to quit living for today, spend a little time thinking what may happen down the road, and being more fiscally responsible. It's not all about you!! It's time for us to hold the stupid consumer accountable for their irresponsible actions!!
jeff saturday
THE WASHINGTON HILLBILLIES Come and listen to my story bout a man named Dodd refied his house but it seemed kinda odd saved eighty grand but he said he didn`t know law makers get a break cause they`re friends of Angelo Mozillo that is , CountryWide , Bad loans Well the first thing ya know Angelo is in some trouble he say`s HEY DODD NOW THEY SAY I CAUSED A BUBBLE! Dodd say`s fine I`ll just sponsor us a bill cover it in sugar and I`ll sell it on the Hill Well the moral of the story that you all should know better vote em out if they`re friends of Angelo or one day soon we`ll be shootin at our food Bernankes got us lookin at two hundred dollar crude Oil that is , black gold , OPEC tea And now it`s time to say goodbye to you and all your kin and Dodd would like to thank you all for kindly chippin in you`re all invited back again to this localitee to pay another trillion for their bogus LTV Loan to value Kick your shoes off Ya`ll come back now you here
jeff saturday
Hill #3 $400,000.00 loan no money down 30 yr. fixed at 5.98% P/I $2,393.00 per month property taxes and insurance in South Florida $600.00 per month payment $2,993.00 $50,000 per year = $4,166.00 per month assuming they pay no income tax or ss They have $1,173 per month to pay utilities (my FPL BILL $400 this month small house) food transportation (car payment, fuel) Credit cards (probably) GOOD LUCK !
AlexG
There is strong opposition to this bailout, yet they will pass it. I think its time to clean up congress, all of congress, regardless of party lines.
MR S
no let them FAIL!! maybe they will loose the big homes and stop driving the big fancy cars tough ,try living middle class
KeithK
If throwing cash at a problem ever worked, then we would have no bankruptcys at all, would we. But the bankruptcy of Washington Mutual worked flawlessly, with a buyer taking it in what, an hour and without costing the FDIC a dime. Why in blue hell are we trying to fix a system that works? The banks don't want to do business? Well, then others will rise to do it and they will be left to fail silently while we witness the changing of the guard to the next stronger generation.
Al Man
A bailout will further reward the ones who created this mess. They have no ethics. Not one of them was held accountable for their mismanagement. While their companies were sinking, everyone of them abandoned ship and laugh all the way to the bank with lavish severance packages and "performance" bonuses. They have already blown trillions with their shady deals. Don't be surprised to see these crooks work the system again and dig themselves an even bigger hole. Afterall, they are gambling with other people's money.
Scott
Madam Speaker, It is with respect that I as an American citizen request that you respectfully recognize that you have single handedly wrecked this economy and resign your position as Speaker of the House. Since you have been Speaker of the House the American Dollar has declined against the Euro and all other world currencies which has caused prices to go up and economy to go down. Your lack of leadership has drawn our nation to the brink of disaster, and I don't think you really recognize your errors or care about our country. Scott
Sean Michael
For those of you who believe that 700 billion will do the job: Rule of thumb for government estimates. Double the estimate for the first six months, triple for the next six month period, 33.5 percent for each following six month periods attributed to unforeseen inflation adjustments.But we are already at 1.8 trillion.Know when to holdem know when to foldem know when to walk away!NO BAILOUT!
chuck
Looking back in history a few short years in fact...the Housing downturn is the root of all this. It had been theory but now economicists are saying this is the problem. After the rise of depressed housing prices,in the spring of '07 came the Subprime mortgage mess followed by the Credit Crunch. I believe that both the subprime mortgage and the present credit crunch are related to the housing downturn. Fast forward to the present: Sectary Paulson stares at his flat monitor screen and sees reality sraring back at him. The stock market is five trades from a severe meltdown thac affects every Fortune and Forbes 500 companies. Now could the present serious finiancial crisis which the market and banks now face could the housing downturn be related to what's going on in the present? If some of you on who work as traders,investment bankers feel free to comment on what I wrote. I would love to hear it.
Anon E Mous
We don't need a "deal"! Let the bad investors fail! Fannie Mae was a corrupt institution, let it fail! Jail those who cooked the books. Government (really politicians) played a big part in setting up this problem, so why put them in charge of fixing it? If we (the taxpayers) have an obligation to cushion losses, then make those who caused the losses return their profits. Where is the investigation into all the politicians who accepted campaign donations from these failed institutions? Why aren't they being shamed into returning the money?
Hillbilly #6
I'd argue CountryWide is easily analogous a market suicide bomber. Let's see - Again, I'm ironing this further to arrive at: Any lending institution would have to had been out of their mind to offer such products AND Any purchaser of loan products - whether fraudulent presentation of terms or knowingly saying - "Gee, some woman Liz MacDonald 5 years from now will formally share insight that just 5 years ago, as of October, 2008 (days away) we began seeing these 5 year no money down, no interest mortgage products." and signing. "Hey honey, now that we can live here 5 years no money down ? no interest ? " "Well, I was watching Fox and they had an ad on all day, every day actually, so we can tap this house further" "Really honey ? how much ? " "I called, they said we had the greenlight And could borrow up to 280k." "Let's do it honey, let's get a black SUV and really shove it to the neighbors" You see ? You'd have to be insane or criminal (always the both option I forget about) to offer OR take these products at those times. And yet ? we just call this a 'bailout' ? yikes. I gotta talk to Hillbilly #4 about this one.
John
If Wall Street can not be controlled, then it should be shut down. Companies are better off running themselves than having these pinheads around. If our government is going to continue to manage this country on scare tactics and stealing from "We the people"; then maybe we need to get the Supreme Court to start looking into how we get our country back. I am sure the founding fathers had some words about this. Stupidity and failure bring punishment; not the rewards of success. STOP the BAILOUT!
Hillbilly #1
This isn't Lord of the Flies I was wrong this is Children of the Corn THOSE kids have taken realm the last 6 to 7 years proclaiming - No law Malakie - No Law ! chanting it. That little kid with the bible in that movie - he's probably equiv. to Paulson and Bernanke combined into one psyche. I had no idea the author of Deliverance - had intent that 4 elements of one psyche were to be formed by the 4 characters. I doubt the 2 hillbillies in that movie were part of the psyche, then again, the HUMAN psyche probably has at least one hillbilly in it. The hillbilly in me says we're Kentucky Fried. 700 Billion - (Reese Witherspoon, movie Election) "Just like that" Right. Congress could clear out the lightweights with some 48 hour sessions ! either way - we ARE kentucky fried We spent all our resources chasing nameless faceless threats in unnamed, unnamable, and unknowable places... 1 trillion plus USD. Here comes the beginning impact of letting unnamed debt products, nameless - faceless - starting to sound familiar ? you bet same - only we pay 2 to 3 TIMES for these pesky market economy bombers/suiciders.
Hillbilly #2
Don't worry America ! God has been directing foreign policy, AND our economy ! You go girl America When we win in 2008 - Palin McCain are gonna git in there and kick it around a little - ya hear what I'm sayin ? God has a plan America We must first remove the Islam belief foundation though, through proper missionary and accurate to the touch bombs - we will prevail with US military fulfilling prophecy ! We are in special times folks, and you can come up here to Alaska - one of God's refuge states - and prepare for the glory of his return, our lord and savior - Jesus Christ. Vote McCain and Palin 2008 OR lose some seriously earned afterlife bonus points you've already acquired in your life. Right. Good luck - enjoy the sucker, they only last a while ya know !
Stevey35B
It's time to remove all currently elected legislators from office. get a new bunch of corrupt crooks in office. Our federal government is totally out-of-control and incapable of resolving this mess in a logical manner. In addition, make every upper management person of every bank, financial, brokerage, rating agency company taken over, bailed out, failed personnally responsible for the losses suffered by their clients. and prosecute every senior manager at all the rating agencies for fraud committed by bad ratings.