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- Elizabeth MacDonald is the stocks editor for Fox Business Network. She is recognized as one of the top prize-winning business journalists in the country, and has received 14 awards, including the top prize in business journalism, the Gerald Loeb Award for Distinguished Business Journalism, and the Newswomen's Club of New York Front Page Award for Excellence in Investigative Journalism.
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Greedom
Terrific research / digging here. I do say if Wachovia plans to lay off near 7,000 people ? Sheesh, at what point will the US unemployment rate be SET by these financials. I bet at the end of the year ? we add up Bear Stearns ? IndyMac ? Wachovia (I finally got the spelling right !), CountryWide ? I bet the total is over 250,000 jobs lost Just guessing I don't think I've read anywhere yet anything regarding this insight which just hit me, which is, those lost jobs are ALSO write downs to some degree, IF there are no new jobs for those people to go to. I read Bear Stearns was helping their x-employees to find new jobs. Just saying, that's a lot of lost jobs, and a LOT of lost income. In fact, I wonder, if the income loss from the lost jobs in the financial sector adds up to more than the stimulus checks ! heh I bet the citizen's oriented stimulus was just there so one could turn around and say- and now ? that you've accepted the bait of falling into agreeing to taking the free welfare handout Mr./Ms. Us taxpayer ? Now that you've done that you can keep you mouth closed when we go ahead and start handing out corporate federalized welfare checks too - on principle. Really, giving out stimulus is like saying, here Frank take 100k from this bank that was looted, er, perhaps robbed is a better term ? Once Frank takes the money ? he can't complain if someone steals it from him, as it's stolen to boot ! He's now not only implicated, but he's got standards of thievery to protect now. Thankfully there really is no honor amongst thieves, and I think we'll find out more about some of the folks listed above in time - heh... You bet. I still say all those jobs is a hit that's missed regarding drains on the economy. Better the arm comes off I suppose ? before the venom spreads ? I dunno, whole lotta write downs, if these investment banks were married couples ? What ? "Honey, I had an affair again, that's right, another write down " ? Somehow 'write down' is a pretty term for what ? Great article, maybe consider a column/blog title 'The beat with Liz MacDonald !' lest the exclamation mark of course.
Greedom
from article: "as the firm cuts costs, as its lays off thousands of employees" end paste As to ML there ? Gee, how is it layoffs are considered 'raising capital' Think about that one.
Greedom
from article: "The problem was, each time Thain made a positive statement after yet another writedown, specifically, that Merrill’s capital sufficed, the stock market ran Merrill’s shares up, investors piled in hoping for the best, only to get hammered when Merrill announced yet more writedowns and that it had to enter the equity markets once again to do more capital raises." end paste This to me sounds like someone is singing in the key of illegal ! If it can be proven intentional, that is highly detracting to a community. Let's keep our eye on Uraguay Airlines to see who's seeking flight heh
Greedom
from article: "Citi plans to lay off over the next two years about 30,000 workers out of some 370,000 employees spread across more than 100 countries. Pandit is now overseeing likely the worst period in the bank’s history, as things have gotten so bad that last spring, he had to endure an angry investor meeting where shareholders’ bags were searched at the door, and some were relieved of their fruit for fear they would whip projectiles at bank executives. " HA HA HA MAkes me wonder, if US voters will bring fire arms in their bags when they go to vote. Of course, that would suggest by analogy a US citizen is a stock holder in the elected officials they vote for, or who get elected. We wouldn't want THAAAYAT model to fit would we ? If a group of stock holders is so angry that firearms in bags are expected ? My, indeed, oh wait, US voters are never really included into any top floor meetings, this would never happen, once you vote, it's astroglide city apparently.
Greedom
Seeing Wachovia pay a meager ? what ? let's call it 125 million ? ALMOST makes me wonder if these yayhoos all along said we either go the route of the fine, or go out of business. These lies to encourage current shareholders from jumping ship ? and to encourage new people to jump on board ? Makes me wonder, if lies like this can manipulate the financial sector, just imagine the political sector.
Bob Manna
Liz, Looking forward to seeing and hearing more of you on Fox Business TV. Your candor is refreshing and your insight stimulating. Hope Fox realizes what it has in your contribution. We get enough fluff from congress - great to hear clean commentary and the facts.
Greedom
Hey, if these large financial corporations lie to prevent a run on deposits, or a stock selloff ? I do have to stop and ask - why wouldn't I expect this in a political arena ? Now that we have that straight, that politicians likely lie ? it's just a matter of WHAT lies are on the table. More so, imagine what kind of media network would be useful, if not core to broadcasting the lies downstream ? What kind of danger would it be to put all the eggs in one basket, and let one corporation have resources to thousands of prior owned as local broadcasting and newsprint solutions ? What if such a corporation was to be in error ? everyone would be misled, or more so, what if such a network was used to promote lies- by having these VERY CEO's ON to tell us about how well things are going ? I wonder how many people Alexis interviewed that said 'gee, things are great, no problem here, bring it on new stock share holders' ALL the while - using the media event as a means to make sure that lie that everything is 'ok' and that if anything, chimes in some morning dolt 'and it's a great buy right now' sitting at a liqour stand, I mean BAR stool. I tell ya, when the REAL SEC is back in place ? better write the book now before no one will buy !
Greedom
Liz, In all capacity of conscience, do you think your network was used ? to promote falsely positive news regarding any of the corporations listed above ? Do YOU believe FBN was used, or knowingly sought to falsely advertise the integrity of a given corporations stock value ? or direction of change ? This isn't Cody at the bar selling his mother out to claim he just told her to buy Apple. This is serious SEC violation and federal crime here... right ? Why would Murdock want the WSJ ? What a POWERFUL mouthpiece. I tell you, the media mouthpieces are ALL these corporations can use, or they can face a lack of confidence. US Treasury promotes confidence is everything, well gee, confidence in the lies ? come on Thank GOD Paulson never worked on the street - phew ! uh oh, wait...
Greedom
True, maybe it's harsh to condemn FBN for allowing these corporations to use its network as a gateway to the city of lies. I will say this though, I think MacDonald stands with 100% integrity on the side of journalism, but JUST clicked on the interview with Bill Pascrell - on the main page here, wow - way to let em have it. I do say, the ONLY place I see clearly spelling issues out is the Liz MacDonald blog, and that comment about the 25 billion figure being thrown around in Washington, my - MacDonald should be the moderator of the next presidential debate ! Great to see SOMEONE asking some serious questions here. That's a neat point on the US taxpayers having to foot the bill for all of this, sheesh, if it could ever have been planned that way ? With intent ? That'd be burglary, or is it robbery when someone is at home, but one thing for sure, the US citizens are indeed being robbed. Somedays I see it as this. CountryWide leading the pack, but Citi has been known to auto check that 'approved' box at the flick of a pen on a loan/mortgage request. Let's see here - 2002, 2003 mortgages are given out to homeless people. Oh wait, that's not it ALTHOUGH they might as well have been for those mortgages that were arranged involving NO prior work history check, and apparantly, no credit check either in many cases. I'm suggesting the issuance of the low integrity loans was done intentionally with focus to in the end ? let all the debt and loss accrued be passed on and paid for by the US tax payers. Not bad if so. I suspect some serious serious laundering would have to play through to pull it off. I suppose as long as those 'stink bombs' were passed around fast enough, no one noticed they smell ? Or perhaps they were all coated in wax, so the smell would be contained, except for the last sucker who opened it to see - wow - we're exposed to 260 billion in loser loans. I charge any investment bank that engages in a write down with either being fiscally irresponsible to not understand the shoddy product they were acquiring (sub prime products), or ? if they did know ? And were planning a game of hot potato or perhaps just a plan to not care and let the Fed bail them out in the end ? (because they are sooooooo important - and critical for US business... Odd Bear Stearns was considered critical, yet ? IndyMac was left at the stake to burn) In second case ? that's criminal. I suppose if the Fed can bailout Freddie and Fannie, then the Chinese can bail the US out ?
Ken Brownfield
"Wall Street's White Knights" appears to be an oxymoronic phrase. Are there truly white knights on Wall St., or are they just in it for themselves?
Greedom
from article: "By the time Thompson left, Wachovia’s shares plunged 50% in price. As mortgage defaults mount, Wachovia also said it now plans to lay off 6,950 people, up from 6,350 last month. A Man of Steel Steel joined Wachovia from the Treasury Department, where as under secretary for domestic finance he worked on legislation to bolster the agency regulating mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac." end paste I still say- is it possible this is Savings and Loan part II ? Where instead of Neal Bush, it's George Bush coupled with the Monica Goodlings of the world to make sure those 'right' people are hired for the job. Point here is that Steel comes from Treasury, and last year ? they blow near 25 Billion on a virtually DEDICATED subprime lender ? Come on, you know ? I bet he knew, I bet he KNEW there would be a bailout from inside the Treasury. Whether perfect timing or not, the 'war on terror' that really has no end, as well, imagine a 'war on horror' ? sounds kind of unreal right ? Anyway, having people spooked to go about getting themselves into loan contracts as if the world is going to end, and then ? Golden ? and CountryWide ? Citi ? are THERE ? to say 'yes, just sign here, you're approved whether you are or not ? ' right Why would Wachovia pick up a company for 25 billion that's DEAD, this is a Bank of America move with CountryWide. They KNEW they'd be bailed out by the fed. This IS Savings and Loan part II What responsible company would 'all of a sudden' just start issuing mortgages for 400k homes to homeless people ? no job - no income, no payments for 5 years, FAR and LONG enough to shove the loan products leaving some chum in the end to look inside to find out it's garbage. No, Wachovia's behavior is too close to Bank of America acquiring CountryWide and their 300 billion in debt. Why did they do it ? because - this was likely all planned and they are counting on a fed bailout, and you know what ? we're giving it to them. Last I checked 19 institutions seem to have - forget inside trading, but - sheesh, 'access to Paulson's plan book' set LONG LONG ago I'm sure if any of this is the case. I'd look around for other 'acquisitions' of sub prime outfits, Chances are someone from each all went on the same fishing trip. Who knows, maybe Dubya was there, maybe Neal Bush was there to give pointers on how to obfuscate the crime better.
Greedom
Error in my last post. on '19' financial institutions.
Hypnotize Anyone
Cool. Come by and hypnotize yourself if you please ;)
Greedom
More thinking on Wachovia from this article here, and it reminds me when Bank of America ALSO last year- took a greater interest in a known debt bomb. I ask myself, if someone tried to sell or give me a bank account that had a negative value saying - here, enjoy the utility of the bank services, just fix up the negative balance ? Why would I do that. Why would I take on debt - why did Merrill take on 25 Billion debt ? on their sub prime unit acquisition and why would Bank of America take on 300 Billion USD debt last year- and who knows who else. In that I learn the Housing Bill that was passed was ORIGINALLY CRAFTED and NAMED by Bank of America ? You know that same bill that also throws around the figure of 300 Billion ? (I laugh in that CountryWide brought JUST about this amount in debt structures) ? Gee ? In that the CEO of Merrill Lynch came out of Treasury ? You THINK ? maybe ? he knew bailout corporate welfare money would be there ? What ? If you're big enough ? the nation can't let you fall, or it falls with you. I understand Bank of America changed the original draft for this Housing Bill to use FHA instead. I suppose some tax payers might want to know why Bank of America is in the drivers seat. I want to know why the two sr. architects on the 'War on Terror' are both oddly discovering new careers over at Bank of America, where 100's of Billions will soon pour through the doors as free money. You know ? this sub prime mess ? The typical American citizen doesn't get it. The cost in the end will likely exceed operation Iraqi Freedom. If Bush's brother looted the savings and loan and caused 600 billion in damage ? Odd his brother would even be in charge of who gets to be Sec. of Treasury eh ? Just imagine the damage of a Neal Bush in the Treasury scamming to figure out how to pull another heist off. What a family, You've got DAD to pardon you, and then ? Brother junior right down the road to pardon ya again ! heh Either way, I wager Merrill Lynch took on 25 Billion in sub prime slime because they KNEW they'd be paid back by the US tax payer, same as Bank of America, and THAT is ironically what it is now. If you walk into a Bank of America ? Be sure to ask for something in return, a pen, a book, anything, chances are - you paid for it. Thanks Paulson and Bush - Now that we've opened the doors through behavioral protocol in your actions to single out Bank of America and a few other cherry picked recipients ? I'd say the rest of the world can equally question your actions. I'd think Japan would be questioning a LOT right now. They're going to get part of the tab for this party they never attended.
Greedom
I've an idea... Picture this, A bus goes city to city finding homeless people and offering them 350k home mortgage products (and of course the home too), no money down, no interest payments for 5 years. We'll then let them extend home equity loans beyond capacity, and then ? we'll pass off the products and product maintenance to some unsuspecting third or first world country (odd, I never see second world ever used). Oh wait, we just witnessed this with the sub prime packaging and redistribution plant. Now, if you have corrupt beef ? (I won't touch any beef personally, other animals, sure) where E Coli ? or say - Mad Cow Disease ? is present ? You USUALLY issue a nationwide recall (I suppose the FDA goes global, but let's recall when Japan this year lifted it's ban on US beef, only to get bone fragments in the veal ordered, arguing that Mad Cow Disease of the 24 cases in Japan, is acquired more so through the bones in the meat). no bad meat recall here with all these infected loan products. Gee, if Japan doesn't want US Beef, I can't imagine why they'd want much more to do with the US Treasury that's bailing out the very people that suckered it into taking the products.
Greedom
If it were bad beef, instead of bad loan products circulating the globe ? There would likely be liability. I wonder what kind of liability is coming down the road from these institutions that can sue, once it's proven there was 'abuse' in the product originator. For example, paying a 120 + million fine doesn't exempt you from the new lawsuits that open up using the NEW data one reveals - 'oh yes, we lied, and we'll just pay the fine'. I mean, if a murder after the trial ends - found innocent goes 'I did it' - lawsuits pile in, and we're just not seeing the liability suits yet in the financial sector are we ?
Greedom
Let's take ebay. Think about used items, where did they REALLY come from ? what's their history ? you just don't know so, would you buy a 50 million or 500 million CDO ? on ebay ? used abuse and probably already inserted into the camels - mouth ? And yet ? Wachovia sells and buys as if it's on ebay. Thing is, ebay has corporate regulators, there is almost no regulation here. I'm a fan Narnia wouldn't stay frozen forever regardless of the Pevensie children, I suspect global markets will to be not unlike an ant breeding colony chamber if you've ever seen one, it's rather alien like, and that the ants can even architect or model those rooms with those passages ? Hey ? who's brain is it anyway ! My point there is, macro and super are interchangeable, so, where I see a super-organism, and I take that model to a macro-economy ? Whatever will be will be ? I wonder if any of these yayhoo's who promote less regulation would prefer their surgeon had less regulation during their next operation.
Greedom
I guess I'll settle this with these words as they just came to me I'd not buy any debt products from Wachovia as much as I'd never buy a vegetable or food product on ebay.
Greedom
"Look honey, it's canned meat product, and it's 17 lots and NO ONE IS BIDDING" "Get it honeycakes" "Done deal, got it" That about sums up how these toxic meat sausage links are trucked out of the sub prime rendering factory. Not even animal grade food. No wonder everyone is starting to get sick... of hearing about it atleast The way I see it ? If Savings and Loan as mentioned in THIS article was just shy over 1/2 trillion ? The sub prime running to 1.1 ? 1.2 Trillion ? Gee - the entire Iraq fiasco cost ? 1.x trillion so far? Gee - it's like the US tax payers don't even care or understand they've been fleeced. I really DO think this is Savings and Loan part II I for sure wouldn't leave the kids OR my bank account in the hands of Paulson.
Greedom
Forgot my point US Tax payers may indeed be paying MORE for this mess - than the Iraq war. And all in all ? some nameless faceless desert redneck with a rifle ? is NOT the one that's responsible for your high high food and gas prices either. I really don't see the US being able to afford this sub prime/housing / toxic loan scam issue AND maintain presence in the middle east. You chime in US exports are up, but you know ? manufacturing is down - so, statistics are near useless unless you get proper universal context, which some argue - is near impossible, but I'd hate to do the statistics on whether statistics can ever be 100%. REally, people complain about the war costs and this ? probably is more expensive - CERTAINLY will cost more if you consider all the ways it will hurt the US citizen. Tighter credit home equity maxed ? credit cards maxed ? sorry, even IF you paid on time for 20 years, no breaks here, here is one aspect no one seems to hit on, While some people pay their mortgages on time, fine, and those fast food workers who got the 500k home ? that couldn't afford it after the 5 year party ended of no money down, no interest ? fine, and Treasury says fine too. BUT - what's missed is - those people who HAVE been paying on time, IF they are to be up against a wall next ? IF they get maxed out on HELOC's and credit cards ? They will have NO WHERE to turn, and you know ? all the 'federal assistance money' e.g. welfare checks will have been 'rendered' and handed out. If I were Paulson or Benanke, I'd not worry about the home owners, that's not the responsibility either, I'd worry about credit issuers, without that ? we're dead in the water at the consumer level. Just imagine if China stopped issuing credit to the US ? Just imagine we'd be gone... Even the most hardcore prolife save the unborn folks wouldn't be able to breed enough new worker ants to pay for what's been passed onto them as the rest of live in denial pretending such debt passed onto the kids isn't even ON the books. It's like we're a farmer family, bad season, bad storms, and 1/2 the kids are gone - next year ? no idea how we're going to plant OR harvest. And oh no ? what's this ? we have to support a war over at the Hendersons ranch too (of course, I'm not suggesting the Iraq war is killing farm workers, this is an analogy !).. If weather takes you down, hey, what CAN ya do right ? but if bad decision making takes you or others down ? you can remove them, fine them, jail them, or hey - last I checked Bush jr. executed plenty of folks down under.