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  • August 12, 2008 08:31 AM EDT by Elizabeth MacDonald

    Wall Street's White Knights

    Despite the initial burst of positive headlines, John Thain of Merrill Lynch, Vikram Pandit of Citigroup, Robert Willumstad of American International Group and Robert Steel of Wachovia are winning mixed praise, according to Wall Street analysts.

    These were the go-to guys, the rescue squad hired to ride steerage on the ocean liner of damaged, levered securities drowning Wall Street firms, the heroes parachuting in to groom to a champion-show finish bombed-out financial results never before seen in the history of Wall Street.

    But their clarion call to glory has been muted of late, their honeymoon period is pretty much over at Merrill Lynch (MER), Citigroup (C), AIG, (AIG) and Wachovia (WB). And some of these executives are getting their credibility sewaraged in the process.

    The problems are not of their creation, to be sure, having taken the reins from executives who stayed too late at the party "dancing" in subprime, to quote Citi's former chief executive Charles O. Prince.

    As the writedowns and losses reached epic proportions, it soon became clear that the companies' former top executives, Citi's Prince, Merrill's Stanley O'Neal, AIG's Martin Sullivan and Wachovia's G. Kennedy Thompson were smoking in bed while the house was on fire, to paraphrase one Wall Street analyst. 

    Pain Circles the Globe

    Worldwide, banks and investment houses have taken more than $500 bn in subprime and credit-related writedowns since January 2007, largely from the drunken daisy chain of paper Wall Street spat out in the form of asset-backed securities, now circling the globe from here to the Arctic and beyond. To date, more than $353 bn has been raised to plug balance sheet holes.

    While the $500 bn plus figure is still less than the $600 bn in inflation-adjusted losses from the S&L crisis, a growing number of analysts believe that $500 bn figure could more than double when all is said and done. And some market pros believe the housing downturn is only half way over.

    A Light at the End of the Tunnel?

    Goldman Sachs looked at 24 house price busts declines of more than 15% since the '70s across 15 countries, and found that on average, the fall is around 30%, bottoming out after six years.

    Closely watched housing indices such as the Standard & Poors/Case Shiller Index indicate the housing downturn is about at the half way point. JPMorgan Chase says it sees a "continued decline in US housing prices," with its chief executive, Jamie Dimon, characterizing the outlook as "terrible" as the bank's losses on prime loans triple in coming months. Freddie Mac (FRE) recently said the overall price decline still has as much as 20 percentage points to go.

    The executives are overseeing the worst losses since the credit crisis began in the summer of 2007.Merrill is off 62% since early August of 2007, Citigroup's shares are down 58% , AIG is down 62% and Wachovia is down 61%.

    The CEOs Desperately Holding On

    Meanwhile, chief executives at other damaged banks and investment houses are holding onto their jobs by their fingernails.

    Despite losing his role as chairman last June, Washington Mutual's (WM) Kerry Killinger is still on the stick, as shares in his bank hover around the cost of a gallon of milk or gasoline.

    Morgan Stanley's (MS) John Mack is still running this blue-chip firm, though its risk management practices have been under fire (Morgan ousted last fall co-president Zoe Cruz, a 25-year veteran and head of its trading operations after a $3.7 bn subprime trading loss). 

    And let's not forget the richly paid chief executives of Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE), Daniel Mudd and Richard Syron, who have hardly seen their compensation curtailed despite helping to run into the ground the country's largest mortgage finance giants, now backstopped by the new, taxpayer-funded $300 bn housing bill, which bails out Wall Street, reckless lenders and numerous irresponsible borrowers.

    Covering Up With a Multitude of Spins

    For their part, Wall Street's new A-team has been making habitually self-deceiving, misguided statements about the rosy state of their companies, triggering acid reflux on the part of investors who buy their shares only to get drilled later when the companies' earnings blow flat tires after more writedowns. History repeats here, as others have made unfortunate forecasts too.

    Who Said This in June 2007? 

    "Troubles in the subprime sector seem unlikely to seriously spill over to the broader economy or the financial system."

    Answer: Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke, less than a year and half into his new job.

    Two months later all holy hell broke loose.

    JOHN THAIN, CHIEF EXECUTIVE, MERRILL LYNCH. Perhaps no other executive has been pilloried more for making overly optimistic statements about their companies' capital position than Thain.

    Initially it was thought, give Thain a break, he's new to the job, he took over from O'Neal, an executive who mindlessly turned the Thundering Herd into the Blundering Herd, with misguided decisions like buying subprime loan purveyor First Franklin Financial from National City for $1.3 bn at the height of the bubble in September 2006 and for taking any junk loan Countrywide Financial (CFC) threw at the firm (no writedowns yet on O'Neal's $160 mn in total compensation he walked out the door with).

    Over the past 12 months, Merill has reported more than $19 bn in losses, wiping out all of the earnings it earned during the housing bubble in the prior three years. It's booked an estimated $51.8 bn in writedowns and losses since the crisis began, and has raised an estimated $29.9 bn.

    The Spin Doctor

    But analysts grew increasingly irked by what they view as an attempt to cover up with a multitude of spins Merrill's dangerously low capital position, moves which run counter to the scissored, communion wafer crisp profile Thain has cut on Wall Street, and the reputation he won running the Big Board as a cerebral, by-the-book executive who looks more like a laser physicist.

    As Thain's rosy statements kept piling up, Reuters ran a wire story spotlighting what he was saying.

    The problem was, each time Thain made a positive statement after yet another writedown, specifically, that Merrill's capital sufficed, the stock market ran Merrill's shares up, investors piled in hoping for the best, only to get hammered when Merrill announced yet more writedowns and that it had to enter the equity markets once again to do more capital raises.

    The worst example just occurred. Thain told analysts on July 18, after the bank wrote down $9.4 bn and sold a 20% stake in financial information services company Bloomberg LP for $4.5 bn, that: "We believe that we are in a very comfortable spot in terms of our capital." Investors bought in when the stock rose to $31.

    About ten days later, Merrill announced it was writing down another $5.7 bn and needed to raise $8.5 bn in equity capital, igniting massive dilution, leaving Merrill with a whopping 1.6 bn in shares outstanding. Thain is slowly learning the art of saying something without really saying it--an art form which supports the jobs of numerous analysts tasked with slicing through the rhetoric.

    Merrill's Garage Sale

    Merrill's Thain has moved quickly to rid the brokerage's balance sheet of the shoddiest assets. It recently unloaded $30 bn in collateralized debt obligations for just $6.7 bn to Lone Star Capital, a Dallas vulture fund.

    Although former Merrill chief Daniel Tully applauded Thain for unloading this "dynamite" off its books, on closer look, the implied, garage-sale price was really just 6 cents on the dollar to Lone Star, who got Merrill to finance 75% of the $6.7 bn deal, using as collateral the very CDOs Merrill was unloading.

    Moreover, the Bloomberg sale doesn't look so hot on closer look. According to Douglas Kass, founder and president of Seabreeze Partners Management who reviewed Merrill's recently issued quarterly report, the $4.5 bn deal to sell its 20% stake in Bloomberg LP back to Bloomberg News calls for Merrill to receive only $110 million of the purchase price in cash and the rest in notes with maturities of 10 to 15 years.

    A Top Analyst Weighs In

    Thain "has yet to gain control of the business, because everywhere he looks he is finding additional problems to deal with," says Richard Bove, Wall Street's top bank analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann. "He chooses not to take a long view in solving the company's problems, but is slashing and burning to get to a position where he can focus on rebuilding the business model. In the process his credibility has been shot."

    The Worst Isn't Over

    Thain has said about $25 bn in problematic securities and assets still sit on Merrill's books. Meanwhile, as the firm cuts costs, as its lays off thousands of employees, as even Bloomberg terminals get yanked from trading desks, in a stupefying move Thain gave former Goldman Sachs top executive Thomas Montag $40 mn to run the brokerage's global sales and trading unit. 

    That's five times what Thain got paid to run NYSE Euronext in 2006, and nearly equals the total $51.20 mn Stan O'Neal earned in his first four years as Merrill Lynch's chief executive, according to Forbes Magazine.

    VIKRAM PANDIT, CHIEF EXECUTIVE, CITIGROUP. While Pandit is racing to trim down Citi's eye-watering $2.2 tn balance sheet, in the process he is trying to revivify Citi's blue-chip brand, having resurrected the old tagline "the Citi that never sleeps."

    But that tagline has quickly morphed into "the writedowns that never sleep," as the subprime and credit mess have cost the bank an estimated $55.1 bn in writedowns and losses since the crisis blew in last year, the most of all banks and investment houses worldwide.

    Junk mortgage paper, souring loans for leveraged buyouts, problematic consumer loans and credit cards continue to plague the bank. Citi has raised an estimated $49.1 bn to fill the potholes on its financials.

    Investors and Analysts Skeptical

    Citi plans to lay off over the next two years about 30,000 workers out of some 370,000 employees spread across more than 100 countries. Pandit is now overseeing likely the worst period in the bank's history, as things have gotten so bad that last spring, he had to endure an angry investor meeting where shareholders' bags were searched at the door, and some were relieved of their fruit for fear they would whip projectiles at bank executives. 

    Analysts now question whether Pandit will force Citigroup to ditch once and for all its financial supermarket model built by predecessor Sanford Weill, as disparate computer systems and technology held together by baling wire and duct tape have bedeviled the bank amidst chaotic losses. So far Pandit says Citi will not be broken up.

    A Herculean Task

    Instead Pandit is now desperately trying offload about a half a billion dollars in assets off of Citi's $2.2 tn balance sheet, amid record writedowns that caused Citi to lose its number one ranking as the world's biggest bank to Bank of America (BAC).

    So far it's unclear in total which assets Pandit thinks are "non-core" and should be sold to the highest bidders, but he's likely keeping his cards close to his chest to avoid arbitrage. At this point, it's unclear whether Pandit can pull off this massive sale as the credit markets largely remain in blackout mode. The concern is, too, those assets would have thrown off profits in the future. Underperformers are in the crosshairs.

    Capital Raises and a Focus on Top Guns

    Along with the meta-asset sale and new capital raises, Pandit and his squad slashed Citi's dividend and unveiled a plan to cut the fat marbled through the bank's operations. He's also unveiled tighter risk controls, as well as systems to centralize capital allocation and spending.

    Pandit is also focusing the bank on its top rainmakers, including top gun Sallie Krawcheck, head of Citi's lucrative global wealth management business.

    Pandit's Thain Moment

    However, like Thain, Pandit also initially was given to overly optimistic comments about capital positions. On his first earnings call as the new CEO on January 15, 2008, Pandit said: "The first priority of risk has been to make sure that our legacy portfolio of assets in the sub-prime and mortgage areas are separated and managed to be optimized, and we have done that. We have also made sure they are well-capitalized."

    About three months later, Citi wrote down $12.1 bn, $6 bn of which came from subprime. And in the following quarter it took about a $7 bn hit.  

    Pandit has also been dinged for eye-glazingly wonky talk in his "Rules of the Road" guidebook he gave to top executives, a seven-part guide to managing Citi in the future. Eye-rolling cliches like "client connectivity" and "product excellence" ran rampant. 

    Pandit Wins Praise

    Still, he's winning praise. Pandit "seems to be taking all of the correct steps," Ladenburg Thalmann bank analyst Bove says. "He is building a management team he is comfortable with," adding "he is decentralizing the operating structure to get more accountability at local levels" and "is writing off problems as he sees them develop."

    Bove notes Pandit "is attempting to solve the company's problems business by business. This is what made [JPMorgan Chase's] Jamie Dimon a success."

    ROBERT WILLUMSTAD, CHIEF EXECUTIVE, AIG. Willumstad, a 40-year bank veteran who was chairman of AIG, got the CEO job June 15th after AIG ousted former top exec Martin Sullivan amid record losses, historic writedowns, regulatory probes and stock lows not seen in decades at the world's biggest insurer, which operates in 130 countries.

    Despite promises of a major overhaul in the works, Wall Street was initially skeptical of Willumstad's appointment, sending AIG's shares down a half a point the day Willumstad got the top job. Prior to his new CEO role, in January, 2006, Willumstad left his job as chief operating officer of Citigroup to take over the chairman role at AIG from former Nasdaq head Frank Zarb.

    AIG's Hard Top Spin  

    AIG's former top exec, Sullivan, was also prone to rosy comments, telling investors in early December that the insurer's credit default swaps written on complicated mortgage-backed debt securities, or collateralized debt obligations, were fine, "because this business is carefully underwritten...we believe the probability that it will sustain an economic loss is close to zero."

    Within months, AIG disclosed $13 bn in losses driven by problematic CDSs, among other things. To date it has reported $25 bn in total write-downs and nearly $19 bn in three consecutive quarterly losses that have nearly wiped out its profit for the past two years.

    Shares plunged 19% in intraday trading after the disclosure of its most recent $5.4 bn in losses, the largest one day percentage in 39 years. Shares eventually closed down 18%, the fifth-largest percentage drop in its history.

    Spooking the Street was AIG's disclosure that its core businesses, property-casualty policies, also posted deep operating losses.

    Capital Raises, and a Plan

    Willumstad says he will unveil a plan to dramatically overhaul AIG's financial products division at an investor meeting on Sept. 25. It's expected Willumstad will try to unload toxic mortgage-backed assets and divisions where bad loans have sucked dry profits, such as mortgage insurer United Guaranty Corp., which posted a $440 mn operating loss in the second quarter, analysts said.

    Analysts are watching closely to see how quickly Willumstad moves to dump nettlesome securities, or whether he hews to the position Sullivan took, that these are paper losses and not cash losses generated by faulty accounting rules that force companies to mark to market securities, when the markets are in blackout mode and no one wants them, even though these securities may be backed by decent assets.

    Willumstad Crooks the Trumpets, Too

    AIG raised $20.3 bn in May via a debt and equity offering to restore capital and against future writedowns. The capital raise led Willumstad to tell investors that he was "comfortable" with how much capital AIG has, despite the fact it ended the second quarter with less capital than the first. Citigroup analyst Joshua Shanker noted in May that AIG may have to raise $10 bn more.

    Now Standard & Poor's threatens to downgrade AIG if earnings "do not stabilize by the third quarter," a downgrade that would force AIG to pony up $10 bn more to back the swaps (AIG says it has $16.5 bn in collateral against the swaps).

    The End Not Here Yet for AIG

    For now, the company does not see the light at the end of the tunnel just yet. At the first quarter's end, it said final losses could come in between $1.2 bn and $2.4 bn.

    The company recently more than tripled its "worst-case" estimate for credit swap losses to as much as $8.5 bn. That is still below a $9 bn to $11 bn estimate made recently by an outside firm hired by AIG. Morgan Stanley estimates the losses at $13 bn. Asset sales may be in the offing.

    The Probes Continue

    Also, the Justice Department and the SEC are reportedly investigating whether the world's biggest insurer overstated the value of credit default swaps, derivative contracts linked to subprime mortgages. Prosecutors from the Department of Justice and the U.S. attorney's office in Brooklyn, New York have reportedly asked for information the SEC is gathering, which reportedly could signal a criminal investigation.

    An AIG spokesman has said the company would co-operate in regulatory and governmental reviews on all matters.

    ROBERT STEEL, CHIEF EXECUTIVE, WACHOVIA. A Wall Street and Washington veteran, Steel, 56, took over from G. Kennedy Thompson, the former head of the Charlotte, N.C.-based Wachovia Corp., after Thompson was ousted by Wachovia's board of directors in early June.

    At the time a deluge of problems threatened to swamp the country's number four bank, based on assets. Since the crisis began, Wachovia has been hit with an estimated $22.5 bn in writedowns and losses, and has raised $11 bn.

    Regulatory probes, criticism over poor internal controls, directionless strategy and this whopper. Much like Merrill's move to buy First Franklin, Wachovia has since been heavily criticized for its decision to buy Golden West, a bank that made its living giving out subprime loans, for $24.2 bn at the top of the market in October 2006.

    Wachovia may have to write off much of the $14 bn in goodwill from the purchase of the California mortgage lender.

    By the time Thompson left, Wachovia's shares plunged 50% in price. As mortgage defaults mount, Wachovia also said it now plans to lay off 6,950 people, up from 6,350 last month.

    A Man of Steel

    Steel joined Wachovia from the Treasury Department, where as under secretary for domestic finance he worked on legislation to bolster the agency regulating mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    Steel was also involved in JPMorgan Chase's spring bailout of Bear Stearns, a shotgun wedding ushered along by the Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson (JP's Dimon sits on the board of the New York Federal Reserve Bank). Prior to that, the North Carolina native worked for 28 years at Goldman Sachs Group, retiring as vice chairman in February 2004 (Treasury Secretary Paulson was chief executive back then).

    A Fight for Survival

    Now Steel is fighting for the survival of the bank, which has $809 bn in assets, in the face of record losses and writedowns.

    Wachovia is now struggling to resurface from under the weight of an eroding $122 bn portfolio of option adjustable-rate mortgages, and another $206 bn in commercial loans, up 25% from a year ago. Wachovia recently said it will stop offering option ARMs, which let borrowers skip some payments, a blue plate special sold by Golden West.

    Steel at the Wheel

    Steel has reportedly bought one million shares in Wachovia worth $16 mn, and in a bout of optimism has said that Wachovia has no plans to either raise more capital or issue more common shares.

    Steel is also said to be considering a "good bank-bad bank" structure for Wachovia, a move used during the S&L crisis of the late ‘80s and early ‘90s to fix damaged thrifts, whereby separate units are set up to absorb bad loans and ring fence troubled assets away from the good assets that are working.

    Bank analyst Richard Bove is skeptical. Steel "has never run a large institution," Bove says. "He does not know commercial banking and he has no background in risk management. Thus, it is intellect and learning on the job that we are looking at here."

    Regulatory Probes Mount

    Wachovia has an unusually large number of regulatory probes.

    It recently agreed to pay $144 mn to settle charges of turning a blind eye when telemarketers used the bank's accounts to steal from customers, many of them senior citizens. Wachovia did not admit or deny wrongdoing.

    Telemarketers reportedly had obtained account information from consumers through a variety of ruses, and then used the information to write themselves fraudulent checks, which they deposited at Wachovia.

    Wachovia is also reportedly under scrutiny for money laundering by Mexican and Colombian money transfer companies moving proceeds of US drug sales to Latin America. Wachovia had reportedly cultivated ties with the money-transfer outfits, but says it cut its ties to them when the probe began last December.

    And Wachovia has been caught up in the municipal securities bid-rigging investigation involving auction rate securities sold as liquid cash equivalents, when they turned out to be highly illiquid instruments after the $330 bn market for them collapsed in February 2008, stranding investors.

    "Progress was made" with Wachovia towards an agreement to address the $9.5 bn of ARS held by Wachovia customers, says the Missouri secretary of state, Missouri being one of the government bodies looking into Wachovia.

    Wachovia recently made a regulatory filing detailing a $500 mn pretax increase to legal reserves. It also said that will increase its second-quarter net loss, originally disclosed on July 22, to $9.11 bn from $8.86 bn.

Greedom

Forgot my point US Tax payers may indeed be paying MORE for this mess - than the Iraq war. And all in all ? some nameless faceless desert redneck with a rifle ? is NOT the one that's responsible for your high high food and gas prices either. I really don't see the US being able to afford this sub prime/housing / toxic loan scam issue AND maintain presence in the middle east. You chime in US exports are up, but you know ? manufacturing is down - so, statistics are near useless unless you get proper universal context, which some argue - is near impossible, but I'd hate to do the statistics on whether statistics can ever be 100%. REally, people complain about the war costs and this ? probably is more expensive - CERTAINLY will cost more if you consider all the ways it will hurt the US citizen. Tighter credit home equity maxed ? credit cards maxed ? sorry, even IF you paid on time for 20 years, no breaks here, here is one aspect no one seems to hit on, While some people pay their mortgages on time, fine, and those fast food workers who got the 500k home ? that couldn't afford it after the 5 year party ended of no money down, no interest ? fine, and Treasury says fine too. BUT - what's missed is - those people who HAVE been paying on time, IF they are to be up against a wall next ? IF they get maxed out on HELOC's and credit cards ? They will have NO WHERE to turn, and you know ? all the 'federal assistance money' e.g. welfare checks will have been 'rendered' and handed out. If I were Paulson or Benanke, I'd not worry about the home owners, that's not the responsibility either, I'd worry about credit issuers, without that ? we're dead in the water at the consumer level. Just imagine if China stopped issuing credit to the US ? Just imagine we'd be gone... Even the most hardcore prolife save the unborn folks wouldn't be able to breed enough new worker ants to pay for what's been passed onto them as the rest of live in denial pretending such debt passed onto the kids isn't even ON the books. It's like we're a farmer family, bad season, bad storms, and 1/2 the kids are gone - next year ? no idea how we're going to plant OR harvest. And oh no ? what's this ? we have to support a war over at the Hendersons ranch too (of course, I'm not suggesting the Iraq war is killing farm workers, this is an analogy !).. If weather takes you down, hey, what CAN ya do right ? but if bad decision making takes you or others down ? you can remove them, fine them, jail them, or hey - last I checked Bush jr. executed plenty of folks down under.

August 13, 2008 at 10:51 am

Greedom

"Look honey, it's canned meat product, and it's 17 lots and NO ONE IS BIDDING" "Get it honeycakes" "Done deal, got it" That about sums up how these toxic meat sausage links are trucked out of the sub prime rendering factory. Not even animal grade food. No wonder everyone is starting to get sick... of hearing about it atleast The way I see it ? If Savings and Loan as mentioned in THIS article was just shy over 1/2 trillion ? The sub prime running to 1.1 ? 1.2 Trillion ? Gee - the entire Iraq fiasco cost ? 1.x trillion so far? Gee - it's like the US tax payers don't even care or understand they've been fleeced. I really DO think this is Savings and Loan part II I for sure wouldn't leave the kids OR my bank account in the hands of Paulson.

August 13, 2008 at 10:42 am

Greedom

I guess I'll settle this with these words as they just came to me I'd not buy any debt products from Wachovia as much as I'd never buy a vegetable or food product on ebay.

August 13, 2008 at 10:39 am

Greedom

Let's take ebay. Think about used items, where did they REALLY come from ? what's their history ? you just don't know so, would you buy a 50 million or 500 million CDO ? on ebay ? used abuse and probably already inserted into the camels - mouth ? And yet ? Wachovia sells and buys as if it's on ebay. Thing is, ebay has corporate regulators, there is almost no regulation here. I'm a fan Narnia wouldn't stay frozen forever regardless of the Pevensie children, I suspect global markets will to be not unlike an ant breeding colony chamber if you've ever seen one, it's rather alien like, and that the ants can even architect or model those rooms with those passages ? Hey ? who's brain is it anyway ! My point there is, macro and super are interchangeable, so, where I see a super-organism, and I take that model to a macro-economy ? Whatever will be will be ? I wonder if any of these yayhoo's who promote less regulation would prefer their surgeon had less regulation during their next operation.

August 13, 2008 at 10:36 am

Greedom

If it were bad beef, instead of bad loan products circulating the globe ? There would likely be liability. I wonder what kind of liability is coming down the road from these institutions that can sue, once it's proven there was 'abuse' in the product originator. For example, paying a 120 + million fine doesn't exempt you from the new lawsuits that open up using the NEW data one reveals - 'oh yes, we lied, and we'll just pay the fine'. I mean, if a murder after the trial ends - found innocent goes 'I did it' - lawsuits pile in, and we're just not seeing the liability suits yet in the financial sector are we ?

August 13, 2008 at 10:01 am

Greedom

I've an idea... Picture this, A bus goes city to city finding homeless people and offering them 350k home mortgage products (and of course the home too), no money down, no interest payments for 5 years. We'll then let them extend home equity loans beyond capacity, and then ? we'll pass off the products and product maintenance to some unsuspecting third or first world country (odd, I never see second world ever used). Oh wait, we just witnessed this with the sub prime packaging and redistribution plant. Now, if you have corrupt beef ? (I won't touch any beef personally, other animals, sure) where E Coli ? or say - Mad Cow Disease ? is present ? You USUALLY issue a nationwide recall (I suppose the FDA goes global, but let's recall when Japan this year lifted it's ban on US beef, only to get bone fragments in the veal ordered, arguing that Mad Cow Disease of the 24 cases in Japan, is acquired more so through the bones in the meat). no bad meat recall here with all these infected loan products. Gee, if Japan doesn't want US Beef, I can't imagine why they'd want much more to do with the US Treasury that's bailing out the very people that suckered it into taking the products.

August 13, 2008 at 9:58 am

Greedom

More thinking on Wachovia from this article here, and it reminds me when Bank of America ALSO last year- took a greater interest in a known debt bomb. I ask myself, if someone tried to sell or give me a bank account that had a negative value saying - here, enjoy the utility of the bank services, just fix up the negative balance ? Why would I do that. Why would I take on debt - why did Merrill take on 25 Billion debt ? on their sub prime unit acquisition and why would Bank of America take on 300 Billion USD debt last year- and who knows who else. In that I learn the Housing Bill that was passed was ORIGINALLY CRAFTED and NAMED by Bank of America ? You know that same bill that also throws around the figure of 300 Billion ? (I laugh in that CountryWide brought JUST about this amount in debt structures) ? Gee ? In that the CEO of Merrill Lynch came out of Treasury ? You THINK ? maybe ? he knew bailout corporate welfare money would be there ? What ? If you're big enough ? the nation can't let you fall, or it falls with you. I understand Bank of America changed the original draft for this Housing Bill to use FHA instead. I suppose some tax payers might want to know why Bank of America is in the drivers seat. I want to know why the two sr. architects on the 'War on Terror' are both oddly discovering new careers over at Bank of America, where 100's of Billions will soon pour through the doors as free money. You know ? this sub prime mess ? The typical American citizen doesn't get it. The cost in the end will likely exceed operation Iraqi Freedom. If Bush's brother looted the savings and loan and caused 600 billion in damage ? Odd his brother would even be in charge of who gets to be Sec. of Treasury eh ? Just imagine the damage of a Neal Bush in the Treasury scamming to figure out how to pull another heist off. What a family, You've got DAD to pardon you, and then ? Brother junior right down the road to pardon ya again ! heh Either way, I wager Merrill Lynch took on 25 Billion in sub prime slime because they KNEW they'd be paid back by the US tax payer, same as Bank of America, and THAT is ironically what it is now. If you walk into a Bank of America ? Be sure to ask for something in return, a pen, a book, anything, chances are - you paid for it. Thanks Paulson and Bush - Now that we've opened the doors through behavioral protocol in your actions to single out Bank of America and a few other cherry picked recipients ? I'd say the rest of the world can equally question your actions. I'd think Japan would be questioning a LOT right now. They're going to get part of the tab for this party they never attended.

August 13, 2008 at 9:48 am

Hypnotize Anyone

Cool. Come by and hypnotize yourself if you please ;)

August 13, 2008 at 5:11 am

Greedom

Error in my last post. on '19' financial institutions.

August 13, 2008 at 1:05 am

Greedom

from article: "By the time Thompson left, Wachovia’s shares plunged 50% in price. As mortgage defaults mount, Wachovia also said it now plans to lay off 6,950 people, up from 6,350 last month. A Man of Steel Steel joined Wachovia from the Treasury Department, where as under secretary for domestic finance he worked on legislation to bolster the agency regulating mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac." end paste I still say- is it possible this is Savings and Loan part II ? Where instead of Neal Bush, it's George Bush coupled with the Monica Goodlings of the world to make sure those 'right' people are hired for the job. Point here is that Steel comes from Treasury, and last year ? they blow near 25 Billion on a virtually DEDICATED subprime lender ? Come on, you know ? I bet he knew, I bet he KNEW there would be a bailout from inside the Treasury. Whether perfect timing or not, the 'war on terror' that really has no end, as well, imagine a 'war on horror' ? sounds kind of unreal right ? Anyway, having people spooked to go about getting themselves into loan contracts as if the world is going to end, and then ? Golden ? and CountryWide ? Citi ? are THERE ? to say 'yes, just sign here, you're approved whether you are or not ? ' right Why would Wachovia pick up a company for 25 billion that's DEAD, this is a Bank of America move with CountryWide. They KNEW they'd be bailed out by the fed. This IS Savings and Loan part II What responsible company would 'all of a sudden' just start issuing mortgages for 400k homes to homeless people ? no job - no income, no payments for 5 years, FAR and LONG enough to shove the loan products leaving some chum in the end to look inside to find out it's garbage. No, Wachovia's behavior is too close to Bank of America acquiring CountryWide and their 300 billion in debt. Why did they do it ? because - this was likely all planned and they are counting on a fed bailout, and you know what ? we're giving it to them. Last I checked 19 institutions seem to have - forget inside trading, but - sheesh, 'access to Paulson's plan book' set LONG LONG ago I'm sure if any of this is the case. I'd look around for other 'acquisitions' of sub prime outfits, Chances are someone from each all went on the same fishing trip. Who knows, maybe Dubya was there, maybe Neal Bush was there to give pointers on how to obfuscate the crime better.

August 13, 2008 at 12:58 am

Ken Brownfield

"Wall Street's White Knights" appears to be an oxymoronic phrase. Are there truly white knights on Wall St., or are they just in it for themselves?

August 12, 2008 at 3:49 pm

Greedom

True, maybe it's harsh to condemn FBN for allowing these corporations to use its network as a gateway to the city of lies. I will say this though, I think MacDonald stands with 100% integrity on the side of journalism, but JUST clicked on the interview with Bill Pascrell - on the main page here, wow - way to let em have it. I do say, the ONLY place I see clearly spelling issues out is the Liz MacDonald blog, and that comment about the 25 billion figure being thrown around in Washington, my - MacDonald should be the moderator of the next presidential debate ! Great to see SOMEONE asking some serious questions here. That's a neat point on the US taxpayers having to foot the bill for all of this, sheesh, if it could ever have been planned that way ? With intent ? That'd be burglary, or is it robbery when someone is at home, but one thing for sure, the US citizens are indeed being robbed. Somedays I see it as this. CountryWide leading the pack, but Citi has been known to auto check that 'approved' box at the flick of a pen on a loan/mortgage request. Let's see here - 2002, 2003 mortgages are given out to homeless people. Oh wait, that's not it ALTHOUGH they might as well have been for those mortgages that were arranged involving NO prior work history check, and apparantly, no credit check either in many cases. I'm suggesting the issuance of the low integrity loans was done intentionally with focus to in the end ? let all the debt and loss accrued be passed on and paid for by the US tax payers. Not bad if so. I suspect some serious serious laundering would have to play through to pull it off. I suppose as long as those 'stink bombs' were passed around fast enough, no one noticed they smell ? Or perhaps they were all coated in wax, so the smell would be contained, except for the last sucker who opened it to see - wow - we're exposed to 260 billion in loser loans. I charge any investment bank that engages in a write down with either being fiscally irresponsible to not understand the shoddy product they were acquiring (sub prime products), or ? if they did know ? And were planning a game of hot potato or perhaps just a plan to not care and let the Fed bail them out in the end ? (because they are sooooooo important - and critical for US business... Odd Bear Stearns was considered critical, yet ? IndyMac was left at the stake to burn) In second case ? that's criminal. I suppose if the Fed can bailout Freddie and Fannie, then the Chinese can bail the US out ?

August 12, 2008 at 11:06 am

Greedom

Liz, In all capacity of conscience, do you think your network was used ? to promote falsely positive news regarding any of the corporations listed above ? Do YOU believe FBN was used, or knowingly sought to falsely advertise the integrity of a given corporations stock value ? or direction of change ? This isn't Cody at the bar selling his mother out to claim he just told her to buy Apple. This is serious SEC violation and federal crime here... right ? Why would Murdock want the WSJ ? What a POWERFUL mouthpiece. I tell you, the media mouthpieces are ALL these corporations can use, or they can face a lack of confidence. US Treasury promotes confidence is everything, well gee, confidence in the lies ? come on Thank GOD Paulson never worked on the street - phew ! uh oh, wait...

August 12, 2008 at 10:32 am

Greedom

Hey, if these large financial corporations lie to prevent a run on deposits, or a stock selloff ? I do have to stop and ask - why wouldn't I expect this in a political arena ? Now that we have that straight, that politicians likely lie ? it's just a matter of WHAT lies are on the table. More so, imagine what kind of media network would be useful, if not core to broadcasting the lies downstream ? What kind of danger would it be to put all the eggs in one basket, and let one corporation have resources to thousands of prior owned as local broadcasting and newsprint solutions ? What if such a corporation was to be in error ? everyone would be misled, or more so, what if such a network was used to promote lies- by having these VERY CEO's ON to tell us about how well things are going ? I wonder how many people Alexis interviewed that said 'gee, things are great, no problem here, bring it on new stock share holders' ALL the while - using the media event as a means to make sure that lie that everything is 'ok' and that if anything, chimes in some morning dolt 'and it's a great buy right now' sitting at a liqour stand, I mean BAR stool. I tell ya, when the REAL SEC is back in place ? better write the book now before no one will buy !

August 12, 2008 at 10:16 am

Bob Manna

Liz, Looking forward to seeing and hearing more of you on Fox Business TV. Your candor is refreshing and your insight stimulating. Hope Fox realizes what it has in your contribution. We get enough fluff from congress - great to hear clean commentary and the facts.

August 12, 2008 at 10:13 am

Greedom

Seeing Wachovia pay a meager ? what ? let's call it 125 million ? ALMOST makes me wonder if these yayhoos all along said we either go the route of the fine, or go out of business. These lies to encourage current shareholders from jumping ship ? and to encourage new people to jump on board ? Makes me wonder, if lies like this can manipulate the financial sector, just imagine the political sector.

August 12, 2008 at 10:00 am

Greedom

from article: "Citi plans to lay off over the next two years about 30,000 workers out of some 370,000 employees spread across more than 100 countries. Pandit is now overseeing likely the worst period in the bank’s history, as things have gotten so bad that last spring, he had to endure an angry investor meeting where shareholders’ bags were searched at the door, and some were relieved of their fruit for fear they would whip projectiles at bank executives. " HA HA HA MAkes me wonder, if US voters will bring fire arms in their bags when they go to vote. Of course, that would suggest by analogy a US citizen is a stock holder in the elected officials they vote for, or who get elected. We wouldn't want THAAAYAT model to fit would we ? If a group of stock holders is so angry that firearms in bags are expected ? My, indeed, oh wait, US voters are never really included into any top floor meetings, this would never happen, once you vote, it's astroglide city apparently.

August 12, 2008 at 9:49 am

Greedom

from article: "The problem was, each time Thain made a positive statement after yet another writedown, specifically, that Merrill’s capital sufficed, the stock market ran Merrill’s shares up, investors piled in hoping for the best, only to get hammered when Merrill announced yet more writedowns and that it had to enter the equity markets once again to do more capital raises." end paste This to me sounds like someone is singing in the key of illegal ! If it can be proven intentional, that is highly detracting to a community. Let's keep our eye on Uraguay Airlines to see who's seeking flight heh

August 12, 2008 at 9:46 am

Greedom

from article: "as the firm cuts costs, as its lays off thousands of employees" end paste As to ML there ? Gee, how is it layoffs are considered 'raising capital' Think about that one.

August 12, 2008 at 9:44 am

Greedom

Terrific research / digging here. I do say if Wachovia plans to lay off near 7,000 people ? Sheesh, at what point will the US unemployment rate be SET by these financials. I bet at the end of the year ? we add up Bear Stearns ? IndyMac ? Wachovia (I finally got the spelling right !), CountryWide ? I bet the total is over 250,000 jobs lost Just guessing I don't think I've read anywhere yet anything regarding this insight which just hit me, which is, those lost jobs are ALSO write downs to some degree, IF there are no new jobs for those people to go to. I read Bear Stearns was helping their x-employees to find new jobs. Just saying, that's a lot of lost jobs, and a LOT of lost income. In fact, I wonder, if the income loss from the lost jobs in the financial sector adds up to more than the stimulus checks ! heh I bet the citizen's oriented stimulus was just there so one could turn around and say- and now ? that you've accepted the bait of falling into agreeing to taking the free welfare handout Mr./Ms. Us taxpayer ? Now that you've done that you can keep you mouth closed when we go ahead and start handing out corporate federalized welfare checks too - on principle. Really, giving out stimulus is like saying, here Frank take 100k from this bank that was looted, er, perhaps robbed is a better term ? Once Frank takes the money ? he can't complain if someone steals it from him, as it's stolen to boot ! He's now not only implicated, but he's got standards of thievery to protect now. Thankfully there really is no honor amongst thieves, and I think we'll find out more about some of the folks listed above in time - heh... You bet. I still say all those jobs is a hit that's missed regarding drains on the economy. Better the arm comes off I suppose ? before the venom spreads ? I dunno, whole lotta write downs, if these investment banks were married couples ? What ? "Honey, I had an affair again, that's right, another write down " ? Somehow 'write down' is a pretty term for what ? Great article, maybe consider a column/blog title 'The beat with Liz MacDonald !' lest the exclamation mark of course.

August 12, 2008 at 9:35 am

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  • Elizabeth MacDonald is the stocks editor for Fox Business Network. She is recognized as one of the top prize-winning business journalists in the country, and has received 14 awards, including the top prize in business journalism, the Gerald Loeb Award for Distinguished Business Journalism, and the Newswomen's Club of New York Front Page Award for Excellence in Investigative Journalism.

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