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	<title>Comments on: Dick Bove: Citigroup&#039;s Auction Rate Settlement &quot;No Good&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Forman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Forman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re:  Auction Rate Securities

You can&#039;t tell me that a lot of wall street brokers didn&#039;t sell this junk, otherwise Citi and Merrill wouldn&#039;t have caved into pressure with the State AG.  These companies routinely market instruments their brokers don&#039;t understand or don&#039;t want to understand in any depth.  These securities are risky and have always been risky.  Let this be a lesson to those seeking the highest yield.  Maybe you should think twice before making investments in atypical derivitives.  One would think investors pursuing a higher return would know of the inherent risks in these securities in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re:  Auction Rate Securities</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t tell me that a lot of wall street brokers didn&#8217;t sell this junk, otherwise Citi and Merrill wouldn&#8217;t have caved into pressure with the State AG.  These companies routinely market instruments their brokers don&#8217;t understand or don&#8217;t want to understand in any depth.  These securities are risky and have always been risky.  Let this be a lesson to those seeking the highest yield.  Maybe you should think twice before making investments in atypical derivitives.  One would think investors pursuing a higher return would know of the inherent risks in these securities in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Rini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Rini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Dick Bove is representative of the thinking at Ladenburg Thalmann, I am happy to say I would never 
want to be one of the 200,000 assset and wealth management clients their web site boasts about.

Mr. Bove obviously is not oriented toward retail clients as his statement guarantees that he will 
not be successful in providing customer service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Dick Bove is representative of the thinking at Ladenburg Thalmann, I am happy to say I would never<br />
want to be one of the 200,000 assset and wealth management clients their web site boasts about.</p>
<p>Mr. Bove obviously is not oriented toward retail clients as his statement guarantees that he will<br />
not be successful in providing customer service.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you guys complaining...you are getting top yield on your money right now.  Next time read your material given to you.  I&#039;m in ARPs and I&#039;m sitting great.  If you put money you needed short term in the market, that is your own greedy fault.  People always want to make the quick buck.  When told of the risk, you don&#039;t listen and want the highest, best yielding or returning product.  I bet most of you are jumping in to buy commodities because of their returns....typical investor.  So go ahead and hire a lawyer...he/she will be walking away with your money.  No...I&#039;m not a Financial Advisor nor do I work for a financial firm.  Before I give my money to people, I research the product first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you guys complaining&#8230;you are getting top yield on your money right now.  Next time read your material given to you.  I&#8217;m in ARPs and I&#8217;m sitting great.  If you put money you needed short term in the market, that is your own greedy fault.  People always want to make the quick buck.  When told of the risk, you don&#8217;t listen and want the highest, best yielding or returning product.  I bet most of you are jumping in to buy commodities because of their returns&#8230;.typical investor.  So go ahead and hire a lawyer&#8230;he/she will be walking away with your money.  No&#8230;I&#8217;m not a Financial Advisor nor do I work for a financial firm.  Before I give my money to people, I research the product first.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about JP Morgan Chase? I am in the exact situation as thousands of Citibank customers and I thought I was dealing with MY Bank NOT an exotic investment arm of my bank. My Rep and my &quot;relationship manager&quot; at Chase came in together to recommend a higher % on my money and since it was presented as liquid as cash, why not get an extra % point on cash for 30 days or so? Try 30 years now!  

I&#039;m ready to buy a condo and start a new business (employing a couple of people) but no can do while the money is frozen earning pathetic interest rates (wondering why the economy sucking, this doesn&#039;t help). 

Chase Manhattan generously offered to give me a loan on 80% of MY MONEY at low interest rates. Thanks Chase for loaning me my own money. 

Now thanks to this debacle they can&#039;t even return a phone call for a simple banking question without running it through their lawyers first. And I&#039;m not even suing them.. yet. 

Mr. Cuomo, what are you doing about JP Morgan Chase? When are they going to be forced to &quot;Man up&quot; to their fraudulent activities? It tells you a lot about an industry when the government has to force them to right a wrong. In my business, you screw someone over like this, you go out of business. In the banking business I guess ethics must be legislated. Glad I&#039;m not a banker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about JP Morgan Chase? I am in the exact situation as thousands of Citibank customers and I thought I was dealing with MY Bank NOT an exotic investment arm of my bank. My Rep and my &#8220;relationship manager&#8221; at Chase came in together to recommend a higher % on my money and since it was presented as liquid as cash, why not get an extra % point on cash for 30 days or so? Try 30 years now!  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m ready to buy a condo and start a new business (employing a couple of people) but no can do while the money is frozen earning pathetic interest rates (wondering why the economy sucking, this doesn&#8217;t help). </p>
<p>Chase Manhattan generously offered to give me a loan on 80% of MY MONEY at low interest rates. Thanks Chase for loaning me my own money. </p>
<p>Now thanks to this debacle they can&#8217;t even return a phone call for a simple banking question without running it through their lawyers first. And I&#8217;m not even suing them.. yet. </p>
<p>Mr. Cuomo, what are you doing about JP Morgan Chase? When are they going to be forced to &#8220;Man up&#8221; to their fraudulent activities? It tells you a lot about an industry when the government has to force them to right a wrong. In my business, you screw someone over like this, you go out of business. In the banking business I guess ethics must be legislated. Glad I&#8217;m not a banker.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really is no big deal, as soon as the auction market starts up in full again, maybe 90-180 days, they can sell them back into the market at par and make the accrued interest in the interim.  What is wrong is that Citi, Mer, etc. made about 100 bp on these transactions, so on $17b they made between $170mm in commission.  Big numbers, but they are basically taking $17b in cash on the balance sheet and converting it to $17b in ARS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really is no big deal, as soon as the auction market starts up in full again, maybe 90-180 days, they can sell them back into the market at par and make the accrued interest in the interim.  What is wrong is that Citi, Mer, etc. made about 100 bp on these transactions, so on $17b they made between $170mm in commission.  Big numbers, but they are basically taking $17b in cash on the balance sheet and converting it to $17b in ARS.</p>
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