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- Elizabeth MacDonald is the stocks editor for Fox Business Network. She is recognized as one of the top prize-winning business journalists in the country, and has received 14 awards, including the top prize in business journalism, the Gerald Loeb Award for Distinguished Business Journalism, and the Newswomen's Club of New York Front Page Award for Excellence in Investigative Journalism.
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Greedom
Not sure if prior submit made it or not - reposting. Please ignore this is the first one made it, I am thinking maybe if it's too long, the server cuts it off ? You know ? When I say 25 Billion listed for buyout costs - I too thought - gee, that seems awfully low. Heck, it seems awful PERIOD, but low too ! While I agree with the article, it didn't present issue of federalization of a US corporation as key issue why to question whether this is a responsible move for a troubled nation state. Call me crazy, and some have ! I have always been a fan of germany styled federalization of the energy resources. I suppose there was that one town that had heating to all the homes, and that was that. Anyway - somewhere in there is a good move for humanity. but federalizingh the mortgage brokers - what's next ? federalization the banks ? I mean, what would follow that ? my god - Some Federal Reserve Bank would show up amidst record train robberies of record cash printing in the early 1900's ! oh no ! By the way - I did observe the US started to print massive cash in the early 1900's - ALSO the same time as - go figure- these massive train robberies - Only recently did it occurr to me that - yikes, these robberies ? were pulling down 10's of millions - at that's at 1900 USD ! Ask yourself - that REAL money, where'd it all go ? Who's family inheritances have been poisoned by stolen cash ! Uh oh, in that case, if the US took the land from the Native Americans - who'd THEY Steal it from ? Looks like humanity is one pathological line of theivery after another - and we just don't get it - we just keep taking. How is it we can rob ourselves - How can fail to discern when we are on a dangerous tangent usurping our energies that otherwise could be used to better the life of child. Yes, the stink bomb is humanity ! Oh uh, maybe not. Arthur Koestley says humanity is pathological, that religious wars, civil wars, you name it, that with nuclear weapons, we're all wearing a time bomb around out neck. And here births the internet out of Arpanet out of planning for a nuclear attack. And here births Larry Craig's big interest - nuclear energy out of technologies developed to blow ourselves to kingdom come. Hard to fit the right words in that prior statement. 25 Billion is low balling it. Oh no, I can't seem to use any words regarding Craig that can't be turned into a euphamism. The big problem with Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac buyout is - even IF you can accept Pualson getting the green light to allow the US Fed gov. just start buying stock in a company, and offering unlimited loans ? (Sounds like Paulson wants a countrywide mortgage here to take the money and fix Fannie and Freddie - IQ above 150 only on that one) is whether the US gov. can even AFFORD it. At the end of the day, the forest comprises of trees. While the 'taxpayers' term is thrown around as if it's more than an abstract noun collectively, what ? the US citizens have to pay off their mortgage and THEN pay off the debt of the mortgage company ? Wow - when one goes to sign a mortgage - does the fine print now say "And - you are responsible to pay off the mortgage provider's debt if it makes some mistakes". There are SO many reasons even considering bailing out Fannie and Freddie are dangerous. For one ? IF nation states that have put their money into the SAFE HAVEN of FM & FM (FM^2 hereafter) ? get word that the US is considering bailing OUT FM^2 ? ALl the while the USD is at it's WORST positioning ? My god - and Treasury continues to state 'confidence is most important feature' Hey - if the US Federal Government is there to bail out corporations when they fail ? Gee ? Maybe they can bail out the citizens too ? Ah, I see, the corporation is more important than the citizen in a corpocracy. That is the real problem here, we live in a corpocracy all the while the Treasury and Federal Reserve pretend it's something else, and when we have blips showing up on the radar that reveal the tight fit between Congress and Corporations - there really isn't much to do but get a bag of popcorn and watch political/economic theory/ideologies unravel. Odd, while China keeps oppression and attempts to move from communism/socialism towards capitalism, the US moves towards oh - nm. One planet as seen from space, no one has dibbs on anything beyond that- hope you people have some seriously real dreams, in come cultures, the dream is considered the beginning of the day.
Greedom
You know ? When I say 25 Billion listed for buyout costs - I too thought - gee, that seems awfully low. Heck, it seems awful PERIOD, but low too ! While I agree with the article, it didn't present issue of federalization of a US corporation as key issue why to question whether this is a responsible move for a troubled nation state. Call me crazy, and some have ! I have always been a fan of germany styled federalization of the energy resources. I suppose there was that one town that had heating to all the homes, and that was that. Anyway - somewhere in there is a good move for humanity. but federalizingh the mortgage brokers - what's next ? federalization the banks ? I mean, what would follow that ? my god - Some Federal Reserve Bank would show up amidst record train robberies of record cash printing in the early 1900's ! oh no ! By the way - I did observe the US started to print massive cash in the early 1900's - ALSO the same time as - go figure- these massive train robberies - Only recently did it occurr to me that - yikes, these robberies ? were pulling down 10's of millions - at that's at 1900 USD ! Ask yourself - that REAL money, where'd it all go ? Who's family inheritances have been poisoned by stolen cash ! Uh oh, in that case, if the US took the land from the Native Americans - who'd THEY Steal it from ? Looks like humanity is one pathological line of theivery after another - and we just don't get it - we just keep taking. How is it we can rob ourselves - How can fail to discern when we are on a dangerous tangent usurping our energies that otherwise could be used to better the life of child. Yes, the stink bomb is humanity ! Oh uh, maybe not. Arthur Koestley says humanity is pathological, that religious wars, civil wars, you name it, that with nuclear weapons, we're all wearing a time bomb around out neck. And here births the internet out of Arpanet out of planning for a nuclear attack. And here births Larry Craig's big interest - nuclear energy out of technologies developed to blow ourselves to kingdom come. Hard to fit the right words in that prior statement. 25 Billion is low balling it. Oh no, I can't seem to use any words regarding Craig that can't be turned into a euphamism. The big problem with Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac buyout is - even IF you can accept Pualson getting the green light to allow the US Fed gov. just start buying stock in a company, and offering unlimited loans ? (Sounds like Paulson wants a countrywide mortgage here to take the money and fix Fannie and Freddie - IQ above 150 only on that one) is whether the US gov. can even AFFORD it. At the end of the day, the forest comprises of trees. While the 'taxpayers' term is thrown around as if it's more than an abstract noun collectively, what ? the US citizens have to pay off their mortgage and THEN pay off the debt of the mortgage company ? Wow - when one goes to sign a mortgage - does the fine print now say "And - you are responsible to pay off the mortgage provider's debt if it makes some mistakes". There are SO many reasons even considering bailing out Fannie and Freddie are dangerous. For one ? IF nation states that have put their money into the SAFE HAVEN of FM & FM (FM^2 hereafter) ? get word that the US is considering bailing OUT FM^2 ? ALl the while the USD is at it's WORST positioning ? My god - and Treasury continues to state 'confidence is most important feature' Hey - if the US Federal Government is there to bail out corporations when they fail ? Gee ? Maybe they can bail out the citizens too ? Ah, I see, the corporation is more important than the citizen in a corpocracy. That is the real problem here, we live in a corpocracy all the while the Treasury and Federal Reserve pretend it's something else, and when we have blips showing up on the radar that reveal the tight fit between Congress and Corporations - there really isn't much to do but get a bag of popcorn and watch political/economic theory/ideologies unravel. Odd, while China keeps oppression and attempts to move from communism/socialism towards capitalism, the US moves towards oh - nm. One planet as seen from space, no one has dibbs on anything beyond that- hope you people have some seriously real dreams, in come cultures, the dream is considered the beginning of the day.
david a belanger
the real reason ( potatohead sect.paulson is doing this is that china and other country have a total of 1 trillion of the securitys fannie and freddie have. this is the only reason they have done what they have done.. still from americans to make their freind in china happy.. what a mess the congress has led us into. they need to let the cards fall. just as the same banks are doing to millions of americans. i just let my so call 400,000 dollar home i baught for 300,000 4 years ago go back to the bank, now that it is only worth 140,000 as todays best offer, what a joke. paulson should be hung high and dry.
Tony Touch
The best article on this debacule ever. Keep up the good work. BTW other countries are already importing our inflation.
Tom
Finally someone in the press gets it.... and from Fox no less.
Tom
If these institutions, who actually required down payments or PMI, were the reckless lenders, please give me a list of the responsible ones.
David Row
Same old story. Bailouts for the private companies are okay, but the semi-government agencies discussed here should be axed. Whats needed is more government intervention, not less. Maybe if the FOX (Bush or the Network) had been watching the henhouse before we got to this point, the chickens wouldn't be running wild all over the barnyard.
Daniel Oakes
Amen, if you ever decide to run for the Senate, please let me know. I would like to help in your campaign. Let the government stop devising various abstract means of 'printing money' in order to push the economic pain further into the future while generating inflation. That future pain becomes increasingly more intense under the wound salt of inflation than the pain to be realized now in dealing with the ever pervasive mal management of trusted assets. Let's get back to a free market economy in which the gain and/or the loss is realized by the risk taker not the American tax payer.
Westcoaster
This decision is avoiding the tough medicine that is needed to get the US back on track. Is the government going to bail out the individual consumers who spent too much at Old Navy or Home Depot? I totally agree with your position. Foreign debt holders must be reconsidering their positions.
gary brunk
GREAT ARTICLE!!! Too bad our local Tulsa FOX "talking heads" won't air this.
Steven
I totally agree. They're a solution to a problem that hasn't existed for decades, making huge profits out of big too big to be allowed to fail. Either they should be nationalized and wound down, of left to fail on their own. Shareholders shouldn't be given a huge hand out from taxes. Just look at other Western countries, none have Fannie or Freddie equivalents, and the Northern Rock shambles in the UK, demonstrates what happens when government sticks their oar in. Sometimes short term pain, a big failure, is the best in the long term.
Deano
I don't think that I am the only one who believes this country is on a major, downhill slide. It seems there is nothing sacred when it comes to congressional members doing anything they can to save big money investors in this country in an attempt to garner the post-politics position they seek. Anytime they start messing with the natural ebb and flow of the economic system, it starts to go awry.
theantibush
So we’ve privatized gains and socialized risk. What a knot! As for bail outs with tax payer money, why isn’t bushie screaming ‘we dont need socialized trading!’? Ok, we let incompetent borrowers into the financial markets, manipulated by sleazy loan people. Ok, we let incompetent people’s votes, manipulated by sleazy political advisors and ‘think tanks’, count the same as the competent. Thus by normal distribution, the tail wags the dog. Is it any wonder democracy in America is one of sub-prime leadership? Until votes are weighed according to citizenship, time in country, community service, criminal record, education, and age, our sub-prime leadership crisis will continue unabated.
John Nakao
Strongly worded but probably the most honest, direct editorial a major news publication will put out? The numbers are staggering, and I agree with the "shut them down" and structuring approach. If we are to call them GSE's it is a half-way house that has confused the market from Day One. This piece is owned lock, stock and barrel by the U.S.A. (read: taxpayer). Anything going forward should be called U.S.A. (government guaranteed, and greatly resisted) or privately-owned and managed, with no bailouts for the owners.
Tracy Horn
Good article, Liz! I'll bet you won't see anything like this on any of the (other) major networks! Why can't we get more people interested in taking an active part in our government's actions, and get them back to their proper role of being "the people's servants"? I guess we all want "ice-cream and circus's" too badly.
David
No responses? The public doesn't understand where congress is taking them and that is to the poor house. We have no stewardship in DC, no backbone and obviously no intelligence. Woe the the people who's leaders have no character and do not represent the wishes of the people and only the wishes of the party. I am afraid this is on both sides of the isle. If you pray, now would be a good time!
Ty
"This, despite the fact that the moves have kicked into high gear the haymaker of inflation now coming a cropper through family budgets." What does that mean?
DL
Good thoughtful analysis scoping out the "rest of the iceberg" under that $25B tip we are being shown.
Bill Hunt
Phil Graham was right, we've become a nation of whiners. God bless Rupert Murdoch and Fox News. The end is near.
Terryeo
Personal independence, personal freedom, we all want these things. Government's duty should aid us and not hinder us. Fanny and Freddie are selected businesses, whether they hurt us and fail or help us and prosper. Don't let private enterprise be "bailed out" by big government because that is the first step on the road to government tyranny.
Tommy Wagner
You have the exact point. I never get responses to my explaination of a new species in congress- moronzos- a cross between bozos and morons! Will your article make the news?