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- Elizabeth MacDonald is the stocks editor for Fox Business Network. She is recognized as one of the top prize-winning business journalists in the country, and has received 14 awards, including the top prize in business journalism, the Gerald Loeb Award for Distinguished Business Journalism, and the Newswomen's Club of New York Front Page Award for Excellence in Investigative Journalism.
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Greedom
compartmental prefab living models appear best IN the store window eh? I once noticed this woman at a grocery checking out, she appeared somewhat disheveled - clearly pumping more than a few dollars into this crane machine. Then epiphany - she wanted what she couldn't have ? Now, on the OTHER hand, there exists a hospital next door, so, maybe I need to abandon this story to deliver that point. Yikes ! If I got THAT one wrong, yikes, even if she shovelled $12 into that crane machine ! It could have been a gift ! and that is the same point I just ended up on with Buffett and Gates probably BOTH saying - as they watch some 783 million USD yayhoo yacht go by - "It could have been a gift" ? Exchange crane machine prizes with Yacht TIVO - ok ok - I'll leave that out - I don't have it, but people do find utility in it Double Wide Winning Chinese investments BEFORE they have bank failure Jet 4 year senate package Oh well people do seem to want what they can't have - crane machine syndrome. Now, wanting to get out of this debt mess - that is not issue to me - in THAT case, it's find accountability over and over hmm - That leaves with one other observation Ms. MacDonald - you could probably THRIVE in some research intensive environment - my posts are somewhat yayhoo- nothing stands out here, you deserve more than this. Maybe go think tank ? for a bit ? ugh! Book ! Hiaetus ! no, on the other hand, more hosting, if not your own show. PROBABLY the fun ticket ! sheesh, had a typo there on fun. sierra nevada wasn't the best start of the day probably.
Greedom
Telling you Elizabeth takea a job with Berkshire Hathaway - I bet you could co-edit anything they need to get out - but all in all ? upstream fishing I see at the crystallized precipice of these murky waters from toxic waste in transit mortgages about to surface for the first time - cleaner waters. I can't not ask myself - how is it the two wealthiest - or let us say ? successful capitalists ? Gates and Buffett both - end up here too. How can we not look at the winners here and ask - and yet ? Here is Warren Buffett on Happy Hour of all places - stating in response to why he's giving his money to Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation - 38 Billion is it ? "It was never mine" And that - is the baseline truth. And you know ? All these hedge funders that ride high on 7 figure walk in the door fee's ? Buffett especially makes anyone still seeking the 'yacht' cornerstone to a double wide with the velvet with only 1/2 of elvis's face because the discount was on the machine breaking down - applied to the back of the living room trailor door. Once in, you will never leave without getting slammed on hearing about the elvis velvet, same with the yacht.
Greedom
I wager Muriel would have fun laughing at the absurdity of machine / algorithmic driven trading ESPECIALLY with futures as she points out, 'well uh, ORIGINALLY? - they have visceral purpose - now ? they'e some abstract derivative (I'll embed her also wording 'lord only knows')' it is absurd indeed That's like using a thermometer for the patio for perhaps some inner bird temp readings ? it's JUST not designed for that - nor is it probably safe same with futures mis-use OR I won't even get into baster abuse. futures abuse ? PROBABLY about the same As Muriel points out - futures were designed to help build or price in anticipated value of a product - a guide for pricing if you ask me. And now ? it's a ride up AND down - short or long - I don't even WANT to ponder software applied to trading. or Trading Automatae perhaps. either way - I was surprised to see Ed Thorpe iirc, the mathematics professor from MIT who first explored card counting with blackhack in the 1950's/60's - then went on to formally design the first hedge fund. Is it abuse teetering on mis-use ? or mis-use teetering on abuse ?
Gregg
I am concerned about Freddie Mac and Fanny Mays situation. But I am in shock that the government would even consider loaning/gaurrenteeing the funds if "Freddie Mac Chairman and Chief Executive Richard Syron pocketed nearly $19.8 million in compensation last year, according to a Securities and Exchange Commission filing Friday, even though the mortgage company's stock lost half its value in 2007." What is worst, "If Syron stays at the helm of Freddie Mac through the end of next year, he will receive nearly $20 million in stock awards if the board says he has met certain goals. This year, he is guaranteed to get $8.8 million in stock grants regardless of performance." "For 2007, Syron received a $1.2 million salary, a $3.45 million bonus, including $1.25 million to remain at the company, and $771,585 in other compensation. He also received stock and options valued by the company at $14.3 million at the time they were awarded." I believe that if they are in such a bad state all executives should recieve no bonuses, there should be no dividend payout during the time frame and all company raise should not exceed a standard raise equatible to inflation and no more. Why should tax payers funds be used to ensure execs get such rich compensation or dividends be paid......accountability has to start some where. Concerned tax payer Gregg
Greedom
I think Wachovia and WaMu are next.
Lee
It is amazing to see the government go against our own Constituition, it states we do no get involved in privately owned business, well, Fannie and Freddie are privately owned. If congress can do that why can they not stop the banks and mortgage companies from increasing ALL of everyone's interest rates. Not just those that are in foreclosure now, because this will continure till 2010. Everyone is making their first 6 months of adjusted payments is not covered by all the new laws and then in July, August and September, when they go into the second adjustment, these people will be at the limit of 17% or higher. They will not be able to pay that for long and then by January 09 they will start another foreclousre issue. Does no one understand how long this effect will go on for. ALl Adjustable Loans need to be frozen now and congress needs to step back and start invetigatint the individuals no the big banks but the individual loan officers and brokers who forged information on applications and who did not disclose information and shut them down and take away their licenses. I see it everyday in my business and it is very disharting to see low income and older people being taken advatnage of just for a buck. Most of those people are now trying to do reverse mortgages but are so upside down there is no equity to do it and they are out on the streets while government drives there big cars WE pay for, have seven course meals, stay warm and have all their luxuries and we americans are living on the streets. It seems that we will soon be a thrid world country wherein our government has Gold Palaces and we have to make shacks to live in. Is that what we were founded on and for. I think not. Maybe if Congress lost their jobs and money and homes then maybe something would be done, but since we little people cannot fight congress that will not happen. I agree we have been sold out and unfortunetly we have to go to other countries to get our food back and our money is worth nothing because we gave it them willingly. We the American People need to put a stop to Congress making us a Third World County.
Greedom
Liz should take some money, get Muriel - have HER take some money, find some more - and go with their own show. Personally, I think there is a great thirst for 'what the X is going on' from a non-prior educated perspective. People don't understand, and do want to understand, just what is meant by 'going to London' etc. I think Liz and Muriel could go on for hours upon hours -broken up into different sessions of course for livable sanity. I don't know how small that office really is over there at Fox Business News. Sometimes I think, is it shrinkable to a small group of people, - then ? you see these rooms. Oh well - one thing for sure - Neil does have some fun history indeed, and I gather is happy with how things are - however - trailing from wing of Fox perhaps was a destined - oh well- words are indeed hard to find there. I am serious though, I think Liz and Muriel should get some capital together and resources, people - and do their own show - it's not like you need to bring a crew on a new roller coaster as they follow the day in stocks. "Look, Muriel's having a heart attack, oh no, that's just laughter, it's MacDonald, look at her, her face is shifting off" as the theme park roller coaster 'filmed live' hits 89 mph. Muriel doesn't need FBN, I don't think Elizabeth MacDonald 'needs' it, but I don't mean to discredit any constructive growth that has construed as a result of having worked with FBN either. Some people DO need the network I suppose - I don't know. but I DO know E. MacDonald and M. Siebert (uh oh, did I start to misspell it ? ) should do some more shows ! :) and I'm sure for them ? it would be more than fun !
Greedom
Comment by edfeeney Jul 16th, 2008 at 6:18 pm I think your fantastic Elizabeth but my heart belongs to Alexsis Glick. A new campaign to have you and Alexsis take over Cavuto’s spot. - end comment Gee I just KNEW this blog would come to a celebrity death match between Glick and MacDonald ! heh - edfeeny - apples and oranges here I'll day this, MacDonald looks genuinely more happier ! but if we JUST gauge quality of life by happiness - we miss out on those who mourn. so, heck if I know, or that I or anyone could know short of people knowing what little they even know about themselves ? as to Elizabeth AND Alexis ? combined ? hmm - I will say while Alexis is 'there' and she may ask a guest a question, that can be it, just that, and one could argue that minimalism is sought after ? I just enjoy a potential for dialog. For example the Muriel interview with Elizabeth - you know ? had that had more time ? I do say - probably would have been yet all the better eh ? Alexis may be 'there' to ask a leading question but I do say Elizabeth seems to be in the heads of the guests. I don't think she brings a broom in or anything and cleans however. Me ? I prefer not mannerisms when not non-optional. Take Katherine - from Business Russia -now there you have an entirely different question in response to Comment by edfeeney. Heh, now THERE would be a show - lol I can see the clean edged presentation from Katherine coupled with Elizabeths content contributions. Yeah, easily can see it. On the other hand maybe MacDonald would freak one day and off set ask -could we have ANY mannerism - short of the hand notion that inflection is occurring ? I really can't improve on Business Russia (or is it Russia Business ? ) hmmmm for clean presentation. Certainly Elizabeth MacDonald as sr. editor though... and then someone else indeed.
Bill
Thanks for an excellent summary of our inability as a nation to balance short-term trading with long-term investment. The figures of speech are quite amusing. However, I must agree with Harry that geese know better than hang around for the winter. Those that did not fly south were subject to Darwin's law and did not pass along their defective behavior. I wish we could apply that principle to all the short-sighted politicians and regulators who promised anything with no regard to the consequences. A nice old lady bookkeeper who embezzles $100K from a small company will end up serving time. Why is Charles Keating not in jail ?? What about double-talk Greenspan, Mozillo, and the Wall Street perps who brought this on? The whole thing is one Ponzi scheme after another. We all pay for this rip-off every day at the food store and ga$ station with our general inflation tax.
edfeeney
I think your fantastic Elizabeth but my heart belongs to Alexsis Glick. A new campaign to have you and Alexsis take over Cavuto's spot.
Geoff
Robt Rothenberg raised some interesting questions.. If the GSE's should be traded publicly then they should be held to much tighter standards and oversight than they were previously.. This entire episode reeks of mismanagement and lack of oversight with the participants knowing that even a debacle such as what we are witnessing is going to be bailed out.. It's another fraud and a screwing of taxpayers and investors.. Congress should be hauled out onto the carpet for this one, too ...
frank
I bought a lot of their stock yesterday.
Pat
matt daamon - the mortgages where interest rates are increasing were spelled out that way from day one: the paperwork had phrases like "ADJUSTABLE RATE", and told you what rate (e.g. U.S. Prime, LIBOR, etc.) would be used. I am neither a lawyer nor an accountant/financier, but when I signed an adjustable-rate mortgage a few years ago, I asked some plan dumb questions: "what will my monthly payment be now?" "what will my payment be in five years?" and so on. And, understanding my risk better, I chose freely to sign. It's nobody's fault but mine. The paperwork is available to any signer. If they choose to neither read it, nor spend $300 to have an attorney read it, then... sorry, but it's the signer's responsibility. If I am a bank, duh! I want to make money. If someone wants to take a loan from me and trade a lower payment now for higher payments later, duh! I'm going to give them the paperwork and try to sell it. And don't forget that millions of people *wanted* these loans so they could buy the house they wanted - nobody forced them to buy the $350K house instead of the $200K condo. So please don't spew that tired "evil corporations" crap. While some individual mortgage sellers may have lied about what's in the paperwork, that's why due diligence is always a wise thing on the part of the buyer. The much bigger problem here, as others here and elsewhere have so ably pointed out, is a government whose mismanagement of money is so stunningly bad that three generations' financial stability, even our nation's, are at risk. In the end, though, it's our fault as a citizenry: we got lazy and fat, and elected the people who made us the nicest promises. Result: deficits, debt, and a hundred trillion (yes, TRILLION) in unfunded liabilities for socialist insecurity and mediscare. Both parties - two sides of a socialist coin - are to blame, but we elected them. As far as I am concerned, the sooner the financial crisis or collapse hits, the sooner the demographic bump commonly characterized by their selfishness and short-sightedness (*cough* baby boomers *cough*) can be hit with it along with the rest of us and (be made to) participate in mopping up the mess rather than running away to Boca Raton, joining AARP, and perpetuating the problem.
DAVID
Let me get this straight....I, the lowly taxpayer, who keeps his bank account balance positive, his bills paid, and who was taught to balance his checkbook in the fifth grade, and is accountable for his own actions, must now loan these companies my money, because they never learned to keep their checkbook balanced ! Who goes to jail here ? No one because there is a "good ole boy" network within these companies and certain members of congress. I SAY, LET THEM FAIL.......PUT THE HEADS OF THESE COMPANIES IN PRISON, AND ANY GOVERNMENTAL FIGURE WHO PARTICIPATED IN OR OVERLOOKED THIS SITUATON BEFORE THE FIRING SQUAD. I will take care of myself, as I always have, without government assistance. If I make a mistake, who rushes in to infuse me with cash.....certainly not my government. It is time that the people of America wake up....THE MARCH TO SOCIALISM IS HERE.
Bob Meyer
Elizabeth MacDonald understands the consequences of "saving" Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac much better than Matt does. Enormous wealth has already been destroyed by their mis-investment. There is no saving these economic corpses anymore than one can raise the dead. The economy is hemorrhaging from GSEs that are "free". They are free to act without serious regulation and also free from any bad consequences of their actions. If they make a profit they keep it, if they don't then someone else gets to pick up the tab. There is no better way to ruin an economy than to free people from the consequences of their actions. Transfusing the blood of the living into these corpses may give them the semblance of life, it may hide the fact that they are dead, but it will not stop these institutions from continuing to destroy wealth. Wealth must be confiscated to pay for this continued destruction and the consequences of that will dwarf the collapse of Freddie and Fannie. How many small businesses must go under, how many people must forgo retirement because their 401k's have plunged in value, how many households have to cut their food budgets so that Freddie and Fannie's incompetent managers won't have to worry about not being able to afford to have the barnacles scraped from their yachts? Plant these corpses now, before they stink up the entire country.
TJ
Great article. You were great on Cavuto yesterday. Matt, I think you need to explain yourself. Give your google sources.
Ben
Sorry Matt, but you're sadly mistaken. This is an extremely well crafted snapshot of the current situation, and Elizabeth should be commended for putting all of this together. Matt, try and realize - you are the one who is having a difficult time wrapping your brain around the concept that your beloved GSE's will fail. You are seething at the fact that you are one of millions who will be paying the price for two organizations that were allowed to hold leverage ratios that no self respecting bank would even consider. Don't blame Elizabeth. You're 'shooting the messenger' as it were. I'm just glad that someone, somewhere was finally able to bring the picture into focus for me. Sometimes the truth hurts. But if you're not willing to go there Matt, there are plenty of other media sources willing to cater to the 'spin' you need to help you sleep at night. Thanks for this, Elizabeth.
Deacon & Usher
Usher: Hey Deak, check out the guys on the hill - they want the people who are getting whacked by the inflation to now pay for all the bad loans? Deacon: Yep, it's kinda like having to pay taxes on roadkill, Usher. Some say it's a free country, but it sure don't look like it from up here.....
Kurt9
The proper course of action to take with Freddie and Fannie is to place them in Federal receivership and to liquidate their assets. This is what was done with the Resolution Trust Corporation in the early 90's when the S&L's all went bust. Of course, our current congress is way too corrupt and fiscally irresponsible for such a course of action.
Roger
If this happened in the real work, and market forces were allowed to apply... This badly run company would be allowed to fail and competition would step in to take the business. Of course that can't happen here, but could they at least make sure all those involved loose their jobs and what's left of their business reputation? (oh, that probably can't happen here either..) Also, wasn't there an accounting scandal a couple of years ago at FannieMae? Did the ouster of Raines and Howard keep them from making other foolish mistakes? Oh, that's right, no competition in this scenario, I keep forgetting.
Harry
Elizabeth: The flock of geese are smarter than Congress: The geese have the sense to know that when winter's coming head south before disaster strikes. Congress wanted everyone to have the American dream of owning a home, and turned aside from proper ovesight. Greenspan's every word was parsed as it were the word of God, except when it came to warning about Freddie and Fannie. Matt, Elizabeth's not the moron. Her blog has become one of the saner voices in a cacophony of reactionaries. You, on the other hand, are sniper with bad eyes.
jim brown
Matt you better wake up here. Your dollar has lost 40% against the Euro in the last few years. In 1964 a quarter would just about buy a gallon of gas. Today my 1964 quarters that are made of silver still almost buy a gallon of gas. The dollar has lost about 95& of its purchasing power since the Federal reserve was created. So the end of the dollar is already here. If you had bought Euro's a few years back you would have made 40% gains keeping them under you mattress. Holding dollars now why the Fed's printing presses are going full speed is like playing russian roulette with 6 bullets in the chambers. No chance of coming out ahead.
sergi
One of the most accurate analysis of F/F situation and congress attitude! Congratulation Elisabeth MacDonald
Robert Rothenberg
It would be obvious that going forward, any GSE should have less leverage than they do now. That would affect long term profitability in rising markets which in turn would lead to lagging share prices. That would lead to the next question, Should they be publicly traded entities to begin with? The government has had to bail them out anyways and the total taxpayer cost is unknown but it will be significantly more than if the agenciews were government run to begin with.
jason
Ok, I understand thet both these companies are failing and that no good solution is available. I cant help but wonder what the upside is tho. I'm not a buisness person, but what % of the loans that they hold not being forclosed on? If these are really behemoth companies cant they have a signifigant amount of loans that are being payed and arent being defaulted? Not to mention foreclosures are losses but not all lost, doesnt the bank typically resell the properties and recoup some of the losses? I understand this is a major problem, but in my dabbling of readings about wall street over the last few years it appears that the majority of information is 1/10 empty not 9/10 full, maybe a sideeffect about writing about money for so many years.