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- Elizabeth MacDonald is the stocks editor for Fox Business Network. She is recognized as one of the top prize-winning business journalists in the country, and has received 14 awards, including the top prize in business journalism, the Gerald Loeb Award for Distinguished Business Journalism, and the Newswomen's Club of New York Front Page Award for Excellence in Investigative Journalism.
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Tampa John
We have our pros and our cons in life. And in the US it seems that our Congress which impedes Progress. Thus their work lives true to their name.
FM
Oil should never be a commodity open to speculation, period. Speculate on any other commodity but not oil. The reason is obvious as oil currently drives everything financially. I get sick to my stomach when I see JP Morgan and other investment groups issuing statements on "how high oil could go" or "that it won't go below x a barrel" simply to try and keep spinning this oil speculation market that is already so fragile. Anyone who is not convinced that this is an issue that has primarily been caused from greed based speculation only need to look at the drastic daily swings in price per barrel. Those +-$5 SESSIONS show CLEAR evidence the way this market is currently pushing prices around based on what *might* happen with each new day. My hope is that the bubble bursts quick and so hard that the speculators that have helped double the price of oil in a year lose, lose, lose.
Karnak ..
Justin......... I said nothing about "obscene" profits.. You are sounding like Pelosi. Big Oil is making record profits and I congratulate them for it.. However, oil is an integral item to the health of our citizens and the security of our country. Therefore, Congress and Big Oil both are guilty of taking advantage of a situation where there are too few legitimate competitors in the marketplace.. You are correct in saying that Congress should be villified for their lax attitude toward oil producers and their do-nothing policy about drilling; especially when alternatives are not on the horizon yet.. The lack of a gold standard for the dollar is a major contributing factor to its fluctuations.. I see no Congressman making any move to correct the dollar's woes.. ---- Big Oil will continue to charge as much as possible, and Congress will continue to do nothing of any consequence as long as the oil lobbyists continue the flow of money.. They both are enjoying a spectacular ride right now with no consequences to pay (YET)...
Rod
Justin Did it ever occur to you that "profit margin" is just accounting, and can be manipulated as a company needs, ever hear of cooking the books? Increased expesnes in any category decreases the profit margin. Give the CEO and other execs a big bonus or raise that decreases the profit margin. Let your Nigerian platform get blown up that loss decreases your profit margin. Are we getting gouged? Yes, by the oil companies, the oil cartel, the local gas station, the speculator and our elected officals. Are we seeing record demand? No. New car sales are in the dirt. Trying to convince me India has a record number of scooters on the road? Please. China is suddenly booming and the rural masses are suddenly living the first world lifestyle? Not even. Similar arguements can be made for all petro products, eg the rural Indian masses suddenly using plastic plates and eating utensils; etc. The oil cartel squeezes us, the oil companies gouge us, the speculators on all levels have a part, the local station owners are raising the prices daily/weekly on fuel that is paid for and in the tank underground, and our elected officials have created rules like the enron/london loophole and have likely profited from them and are now, that the light of day is shining on them, condemning them. Remember, gold is nothing more than a metal we as humans ascribe value to.
Don Kamp
Are current crude oil prices in a speculative bubble? Or is is possible that (due to 20 years of a chronic glut of oil) the dollar is terribly over valued and the price of oil is still unnaturally depressed? And just maybe we've all collectively been hypnotized into thinking that oil should still be priced at $12 to $18 per barrel (except for maybe a few smart speculators). When are people going to wake up and quit trying to use fried eggs for doing their thinking. Has everyone forgotten the 70's oil crisis except me. It was a real education, but lost on too many. And all through the 90's (while trying to speculate on oil stocks and not doing too well) I would sit in wonder while watching people load up on bigger and faster cars, motor homes, and unbelievably gas hungry motor boats. Are we really dumb or what? Some aren't and realize that oil will still be dirt cheap at $140 a barrel. And Congressmen will hate them for being smarter than they are. If I were them I would very much like to rob from the smart people and give to the stupid ones. Oh! And another thing: If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. What I mean is: Why is the Federal Reserve Bank fiddle farting around with the M1 money supply? It's pretty much futile. They should be speculating on commodities that have real value. Don.
Justin
Karnak Did it ever occur to you that these record "obscene" profits the oil companies are making is due to people buying more oil than ever? The profit margins tell the whole story. They haven't changed for big oil and we aren't being price gouged. They've been hovering right around 9%. So why don't we spend more time demonizing the bureaucrats that subsidize alternative energy at tax payer expense because without these government hand outs, green energy wouldn't be able to compete with petro. Why don't we demonize the bureaucrats that wont even let American oil companies exploit our own natural resources while China drills off the coast of Florida and laughs. You can bet China doesn't have our best interest at heart in regards to polluting our beaches. Alot of this rise in oil can be directly contributed to Helicopter Ben. The real criminal is the federal reserve and the government that uses coercion to force us into accepting these worthless paper greenbacks for the payment of debt. They've destroyed our dollar. If we were buying oil with real money (gold) we'd only see a fraction of the jump in the price of oil. It's total BS. It takes fascist organizations to keep this ponzi scheme system running (IRS, FBI, ATF, DEA, ect).
Dan
Supply and Demand, that concept has gone out the window a long time ago. Why is it when the Saudis up output a few hundred thousand barrels, there is little change in the price. Let an attack on an oil platform in Africe happen and lose 100,000 barrels and the price shots up $5.00 a barrel. Oh I forgot tensions with Iran, those same tensions have been around for 7 years now. Enough with the bull, until the trading fields between stocks and commodities is leveled you will not see a difference in the price of oil. I can get $1,000,000 worth of stock by advanacing $500,000 first or I can get $1,000,000 worth of oil for $40,000, simple math smaller risk. GREED folks simple GREED
David Harrell
err...demand has never exceeded supply, lol.
David Harrell
Justin, Supply has never exceeded demand since the '70's embargo. Get your "facts" straight. And since the oil futures money pouring into NYMEX and swaps are totally unseen and unregulated, who thinks that upwards of a trillion is rigging that market? I do, because all that subprime loot and Bernache's gifting to large banks of hundreds of billions more, as well as Goldman Sachs and Morgan in the mix with a pocket full of hedge fund and pension monies...a trillion might be on the light side. Besides, Wall Street is drying up, while the 3 pits at the Commodities Exchange are lined up with notes littering the floor by the ton. Them dudes have to find a place to park and "invest" at 20 to 1 odds. Wouldn't you? BUT WHY STATE THE OBVIOUS? FOX, CNN, AND MSNBC WON'T. They constantly interview the very thieves propelling this scam forward. Hundreds will soon be in jail: Paulson, Bodmann, Newsome, Dodd,Bernache, etc. As soon as we get the Justice Dept. back, and all these appointed crooks of Bush's ousted, you will see the unveiling of a manipulation of stunning proportion. And BTW, 60% (not counting the aforementioned mess) is US involvement. Kinda makes ya proud, in a sick sorta way.
Frank
Could it be possible that Congress will do something positive? Anything that can help keep oil prices in check would be helpful and that shouldn't be limited to controlling speculators. I hate Government intervention into free enterprise but oil has attained utility status and should be regulated like electricity. The one good thing that could come from high prices is that it could make it feasable to soon drill for the reported trillions of barrels of shale out West. Congress could also release some of our Stratgic Petroleum Reserve to correct the supply issue, if it is in fact a reality. While using our own supply, we could simply tell OPEC to get the price right or they can eat their oil instead of our grain. Who's going to buy it if we don't? Another positive is that high oil prices is a sign of an expanding economy.
Greedom
from article: (near end) "As the Federal Reserve cut interest rates, the treasury bonds that are usually the preferred investment vehicle of choice for pension funds and endowments no longer could keep pace with inflation so they plowed into oil." I do say - that's just one more negative side to these low rates. Wasn't in Jan ? this year 2008 ? Treasury bills went negative for the first time ? I say speculators can only do so much damage even in oil with a dollar made of straw. hmm straw hmm - tin man ? poppies ? why ?
Karnak ..
Justin, do you actually believe that Congress and the oil companies are doing anything to help consumers?? Or, do you think they are doing whatever they can get away with to improve their own profits?? -- Congress does nothing but talk, and the oil companies do nothing but crank out more excuses.. Big oil has no incentive to try to increase production while they are making record profits at the present pace and M.O. -- Congress won't act because they are afraid of the people they have taken so much money from over the years.. -- We have billions of barrels of oil and trillions of cu. ft. of natural gas here in the USA.. Congress is not writing any legislation to encourage production, and big oil is not lobbying to get at it.. All we hear is a lot of malarkey that they release to news outlets to make us consumers think something constructive is happening.. All this big talk started during the Carter years, and almost nothing has been accomplished except for the raising of prices ...
Justin
what abuse Karnak? We are in a secular bull market in commodities. Oil will correct to the $120 range, but I can guarantee we'll see oil at $200 before it goes under $100. Throw in a hurricane or an attack on Iran and you can kiss $120 a barrell crude right out the window. Until supply meets demand, we'll continue to see oil rise. It really is that simple.
bob johnson
Liz Pls note that ICE OTC trades nat gas and electricity, NOT oil futures. So to the extent that the "ENRON loophole" refers to OTC platforms, closing this loophole has zero impact on oil prices. also, since 2006 ICE has provided any info CFTC has requested on WTI trading on ICE Futures...your comment that "...US regulators have an eye only on what goes on in New York..." is incorrect. Recent testimony reveals that less than 15% of WTI open interest results from ICE trading, and WTI settlement prices are set only on NYMEX. Focusing on ICE as the "bogeyman" diverts us from identifying the true impact of speculators vs supply/demand issues, and leads us to a deadend of vapid policy prescriptions. Why not start with the cartel of 13 producers who set price?
Karnak ..
Let's face it, Folks.. Congress has been taking so much money and perks from big oil for so long that they are now impotent and/or reluctant to protect the consumer.. Regulations, anti-trust actions, and trading caps should have been activated long ago.. Free market forces are not controlling oil prices.. This is the exact instance in which the federal gov't has to take a stand to stop the abuse ...