January 28, 2008 1:21PM
The Leave No Consumer Behind Act
By Elizabeth MacDonald
Ok we’ve been in a heated debate here at Fox Business over the government stimulus plan and whether we’re headed into a recession or not. We’ve been kicking these issues around on Money for Breakfast, myself, Alexis Glick, Peter Barnes, Charles Payne and Jenna Lee.
Alexis just got back from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland where she made a valiant effort trying to pin down executives to get candid, straight answers for you on all of these problems.
Yes Davos sounds sweet, but it isn’t Hawaii. It’s a pain in the neck to get to, the security clearances can drive you batty, and covering it can be grinding work. Pinning executives down for interviews is as easy as trying to chase a gnat in a hurricane. It’s one reason why I chew Tums round the clock.
But Alexis, God Bless her, delivers a fresh look on these important issues you’ll get no where else, to get the full story, go to Alexis’s blog, it’s worth reading.
Peter and Charles have been doing a smart job going toe to toe with our crew of financial experts, we’re trying to get a clearer read on the picture, with Jenna telling us when our reality check has bounced with breaking news. God Bless her too (can you tell by now I’m a Catholic girl? Yup, Elizabeth Mary Regina, I still say the Rosary, God Bless me, 12 years of Catholic school plus 12 years of therapy).
I don’t know about you, but my head is spinning. Tax rebates, good idea or no? More government debt-funded stimulus, good or bad? More debt for our children and grandchildren to deal with? Inflation or no? Recession or no? Yikety yikes!
I have something to say. Not because I am a t.v. gasbag doing my part to add to global warming (there should be a new Kyoto treaty covering t.v. gasbags).
But tell me if I’m wrong here. I want to hear what you have to say. Do we really think tossing money at the problem is going to fix what’s wrong? Do we really think a $150 billion dollar stimulus package loaded with tax rebate checks will fix the problems? Aren’t the rebate checks just a quick steroid boost so consumers can go out and help out, well, the retail stocks I guess, as well as China, which makes most of those goods?
Then there’s more talk of yet another Fed rate cut. Do we think a rate cut can stop a recession, can it prevent the economy and the markets from going south faster than geese fly in winter? Shouldn’t we just let the free market fix the mess? What do you think?
I get it, a Fed rate cut plus pumping liquidity via term auctions could help thaw out a frozen solid bank sector, as banks hoard cash to deal with potential writedowns and won’t use it to lend. We need banks to lend to small businesses so they can hire workers who will spend, that’s understood.
But is tossing money at the problem by, well, printing money really the way to fix the current mess we’re in? Won’t it simply create inflation (too much money chasing too few good assets)? Is printing money really the way to prosperity? “Printing money cannot create wealth if it could counterfeiting would be legal,” economist Brian Wesbury has rightfully said.
As I’ve noted in prior blogs, this is far from over. Alexis, Peter, Charles, Jenna and I have all been talking about how the financials still face massive write-downs, beyond the $107 billion already reported. Especially with the bond insurers in trouble—they’re the backstop to the financials, having guaranteed payment on the debt instruments the financials sell in the event of defaults (I kind of think the bond insurers have no reason to exist, really—sort of like the credit rating agencies. They sell big promises but in reality deliver a whole lot of nothing.)
Some bond insurers may go bellyup, which means deeper write downs at the financials. Royal Bank of Scotland esimates that the bond insurers have guaranteed $305 billion of these collateralized debt obligations at U.S. banks, and $88 billion overseas. Again, yikety yikes!
But recession? Yes, profit results are backward looking, but still it’s worth noting that earnings are coming in ok. Of the 160 companies in the S&P 500 that have reported, 59% beat estimates (vs. the usual 60%), about 14% matched and about 28% missed forecasts (vs. the usual 20%).
As you know I’m an accounting geek. I’ve covered accounting, quality of earnings and taxes for the two decades I’ve been a business journalist (yes 20 years, I’m dating myself, but that’s okay because, as Dick Cavett once joked, I can date whomever I want ha).
I like to closely eyeball companies’ balance sheets to see if they are drunk on debt and whether the credit crunch will hurt them more, whether they’ll need to hoard a lot of cash to pay down debt in future periods. Which means they can’t use the money to grow their businesses, profits and your stock portfolios.
So which sectors to avoid? Financial information firm Sageworks of Research Triangle Park, N.C., has crunched the numbers from more than 6,000 publicly traded, nonfinancial U.S. companies. Sageworks found that, outside banking, real estate, and retail, most sectors are pretty ok with their debt levels. Reuters looked at the same data and arrived at the same conclusion.
Sageworks found that the ratio between short-term assets and short-term liabilities of U.S. companies was 1.8-to-1. Banks, real estate and retailers ended 2007 with ratios well below 1-to-1. A ratio above 1-to-1 is considered healthy.
The high ratio for many companies may help explain why, when the National Association for Business Economics recently surveyed U.S. businesses, two-thirds of respondents said tightening credit conditions had not affected them, Reuters says.
And research company Credit Sights found that Cummins, Deere & Co and CNH Global NV have improved their credit profile, while Eaton Corp, Brunswick Corp and Ingersoll-Rand Co Ltd for having gone the opposite direction, Reuters found.
I’ve got some defensive stocks for you to consider if we do face a downturn—these companies have not gotten drunk on debt, a rarity in these times, so they’re pretty decently positioned. And I’ve got the debtaholics to avoid. Stay tuned.



January 28th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
It would be nice if I could print your article with printing the whole page. I see enough of Nick on TV. What do we have to do in San Francisco to get the Fox Business Channel???
Be well,
Bob
January 28th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Elizabeth, let me say first, I would feel better if you gave the “state of the union” tonight. Don’t get me wrong, I support the president, but you and your team have a better handle on what’s really going on and what it might cost us to fix it.
Ok second, I know it’s not about feeling good at this point. Sins were uncovered (sub prime), changes for what its worth are taking place (some right some wrong) painful as it might be…short term and or longer term we need to let the market deal with it without compounding. And that is what I believe this S Package is. Good intent without real checks and balances, (like the sub prime market was). I think all this is, is a Jedi mind trick from the government wanting us to think “they can fix another man’s sin” when in reality most of us somehow benefited from the sin and all of us should just accept the painful truth and move on and let market heal.
JohnyV
PS: any calls from the White House yet? Just kidding…
PSS: your team is ON TARGET! Keep it up!
PSSS: tell AG to take the next few days off with pay! She earned it!
January 28th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Thank you for your analysis and thoughtful questioning. Yours is a blog I’ll follow with great interest!!
January 29th, 2008 at 1:11 am
Hi,
Seems like the markets are being controlled, and the common person is being taken. Is the value of the dollar being sucked for the benefit of other currencies? Why don’t mortgage companies negotiate ARM’s that cannot be repaid? Creating money that we don’t have has been the the Bush policy for a long time. This time we go further into debt and maybe, hopefully, the ecconomy will straighten out. The same thing would have been done if the Iraq War had already banckrupted us. Imagine major banks at the mercy of foriegn investors? As soon as they dump us with all this debt…I prefer being positive and working for the Lord. Lord bless the U.S.A.
January 29th, 2008 at 1:50 am
If I believed in the hysteria, I would be investing in shotguns, canned food, rural real-estate, and bottled water. But, that’s what the gasbags want us to do, because the ego’s want to see the people dance to their delivery of pathos.
I have a couple questions “Where are the value and growth investors putting their money?” and “Where would Graham put his money today?” My answer is that they would probably put their money in handpicked financials. That is why I have purchased stock in a mortgage company for $10.00 a share; that pays a $1.00 annual dividend. Where I sit, a 10% return on investment seems like a bargain. After ten years it pays for itself completely, and that’s if the share price and dividends stay where they are today in this “crisis.”
5 years from now, no one is going to remember anything about this alleged “crisis.” The odds have it, that this company will also grow in value. If returns to just 70% of it’s 52 week high of $28.00, I can sell and double my money, while collecting the dividend checks.
So this is the time to buy, it’s all on sale. You just have to treat Wall Street like a used car lot for right now.
January 29th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Fed Rate cuts: It’s a bad idea. They were too late with the last one, and they remind me of some frog jumping contest…time for some stability at the Fed board. Also, I expect to see the housing market suffer a bit more: Credit is harder to get, and there is a huge surplus of houses on the market. The prices went way out of reason in the previous years, and it will take time to bottom.
Unemployment ?: I don’t think that unemployment is the key to what’s going on. UNDEREMPLOYMENT is probably playing more of a role. There lots of folks, especially in the midwest, who accumulated credit card and other debt that they could manage at the income level they were at, but many jobs, even in the white and blue collar range, have been send over the pond. When will their credit debt get maxed-out? No one knows, but it can’t be too longe in coming.
Conclusions: We need to feel the pain, not just take government “aspirin” to forstall the inevitable. Thanks for the opportunity to vent ; )
February 14th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
No, throughing rebate checks around will not prevent the economy from going into a recession. Nor will it actually help at all. In fact I believe that the country is already entering into a recession. This is a correction or contraction whichever you prefer.This has been coming for at least 18 months. I’m just a working class guy,however I’m not blind…this is not over yet. I predict another 12 to 18 months before things start to turn around,thats if inflation and employment can remian stable and that is debatable.